ceramic tile fireplace surround for zero clearance fireplace?
Hello -
We are in the midst of installing a zero clearance fireplace (Napoleon High Country NZ5000) and exploring options for the fireplace surround. Given the age and style of our home (1902 Colonial Revival), we'd love to use ceramic tile for the surround. Any practical or safety based reason not to do so? Pic below is one we like a lot! Thanks in advance!
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PRO2 years ago- 2 years agolast modified: 2 years ago
Thank you responding! Here is the open wall and a couple pictures from before we started.
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18florence thanked elcieg- 2 years ago
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Both examples (deep color green and blue) are beautiful with the smaller tiles. If you end up with a lot of space around the fireplace opening (as in the green example) you could insert a few other tiles with a relief, like rosettes, very close in color to the other tiles, to make it interesting and special.
Here's one example I found that also has a tile pattern. It wouldn't necessarily have to be even this elaborate. Those 3 floral tiles alone add a lot of interest. I wasn't able to find one with a painted mantel, but you probably get the idea.
18florence thanked wishiwereintheup - 2 years ago
2 years agoYour contractor is full of bull pucky. A stone surround is easier for him to do. Go find a talented tile installer to do yours. That's what I did.
he keeps saying that the heat of the fire will be "too hot."
Boy is he showing his ignorance. Does he realize that quality ceramic tile is fired in kilns where the temperature is much hotter than anything you'd generate from a home fireplace? Sheesh.
Here's my zero clearance fireplace built into my new house 4 years ago
. Tiles are Rookwood. There are lots of choices from several wonderful manufacturers.
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