Anyone cook with cider apples?
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Apples: cider, juice, applesauce
Comments (3)There's only one state that I know of in the US that differentiates between juice and cider. They say juice is filtered clear, cider is cloudy. You don't have to filter to get clear, a little pectic enzyme will clear cider quickly but there's a lot of waste and you are removing some of the healthy stuff (the pectin for one). Europe has the difference between juice and cider as unfermented and fermented. Fermented is "hard cider" in the US. So here it's up to you what you call it. To me "better" for applesauce is a little tart and cooks down easy. My niece likes my Arkansas Black sauce for taste but you could cook them forever and they'd never turn to sauce without a stick blender. She hates tart which is why she started giving me the apples from her old tree. So flavor is in the eye of the beholder. I think any apple that softens readily in storage would be a good candidate for cooking down easily. I've done Cortland (stays white as sauce) and McIntosh and they do good. Yellow Transparent and Lodi are said to be good sauce apples....See MoreCanning storebought cider (unfiltered apple juice)
Comments (14)I figured if it said get it within 24 hours of pressing they meant unpasteurized - so you don't want the bacteria to grow (or as you said start fermenting. BTW, I mixed up the Ball Complete (which makes your own juice) instructions with NCHFP, Ball says to keep it at 190 for 5 minutes, NCHFP doesn't. But do you have to start with unpasteurized juice to make a quality canned product? Yes, this is pasteurized juice from PA, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, and malic acid added. Process quarts 5m in pre-sterilized jars for best flavor? Will it still taste like cider? Or will 1 more processing added to what's already been done/added to it result in "muh" taste? I could pour some off each jug and just leave them in the garage to freeze, take into house as needed, but I don't know when we're going to get a thaw (about time, we're about 20 degrees below normal)!...See MoreWhat's the difference: apple juice/apple cider
Comments (12)Cider is pressed from cold or room temperature apples. It can then be filtered for sediment (if desired) and pasturized (by heat or by UV filter) if desired. Juice is made pressing hot fruit. Both methods taste quite different. Cider is usually a raw product while juice is a cooked product. The teminology is a bit shady these days since so many now pasteurize the cider by heat but not at the high temps that processing juice usually occurs. I hate pasteurized cider when done by heat and prefer if done with UV filter for that old time cider taste. Better yet I hunt for non-pasterized cider which must be labeled as such at orchards that sell it in my state. Big warning on it that may be harmful to children or elderly as non-pasteurized. Recent studies show IF cider pressed with warm apples (yields more juice) and left to sit warm for a while and then frozen, this works as good as heat pasterization. The acidity and good bacteria will work to kill the bad bacteria with this method using warm apples. The final kicker is the freezing action. We made a lot of cider when I was a boy on a large cider press I built in woodshop while in high school. Years later I used to help make 250 gallons each week on a commercial press at an apple orchard I was employed at....See MoreAn apple cider vinegar disaster - bit of a cooking question
Comments (1)Well there is always sugar but in this case I think I'd go with lots of carrots for sweeting it. They would blend in with all the other vegetables and if they don't add enough to off-set the vinegar - doubt you can cover all of it - you can always add a bit of sugar. Dave...See More- 3 years ago
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