Fulgor Milano, Fisher Paykel or Ilve 36" Induction Range
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Comments (38)That’s a pity but definitely a sign of the times. I didn’t research it and the FP may be worth it. I did briefly look at the wolf 36 but I didn’t like the look Of the 2 knobs as opposed to the look of a whole array of knobs. Miele 36 didn’t have the bridge element that the individual cooktop had and service in my area is questionable. I looked at a few 30 inch ones but that didn’t work for me. What is Ilve’s situation? If they have one. Probably anything European will have the same delivery issues as Aga? What is the timeline for the Aga? I would honestly consider waiting for it, (if other options are pricey ). As the kitchen can be built around it and it slides in. And it is that wonderful....See MoreFisher Paykel Induction Range
Comments (76)Hi Everyone. We are one year into owning our 30" F&P induction range. I left an early review above and am coming back with a report since this thread is active again. I very much agree with all the observations made by Jean a few days ago. Overall I've enjoyed our range, although will admit that I miss the romance and beauty of the gas flame (we replaced a Viking gas stove). The hum of those magnets just isn't quite the same :-), even if I know the induction is a healthier and a better environmental choice. I am a big home cook and it took me a good 9 months to really adapt from gas to induction. I think figuring out what cookware works best on the induction has also been a bit of trial and error. I think my ceramic cast iron (Le Creuset) and our All Clad Stainless Steel (20+ year old set from our wedding) work best. I too find it frustrating that the largest burner is at the back of the cooktop, but like Jean, have also found that the smaller burners can work well (especially at 7 and above). On the oven, I love the sliding racks. The oven temp is very reliable and comes to temp relatively fast (I have no complaints). I'm fine with the oven size -- we are a family of two and do not need a crazy amount of space. I did need to invest in a new smaller baking steel since my old pizza stone didn't fit in the F&P. I was interested in trying a baking steel anyway so that's been fine. We tend to use the regular baking, broil, areo, and pizza settings the most. There are a lot of other settings I have not used. My biggest complaint/frustration? Well, it is the glass windows in the oven door. I try to keep the interior of my oven relatively clean (wipe it down every few uses). Early on, as I was cleaning the interior glass, some excess water found its way between the interior/exterior glass and streaked. I wasn't using a crazy amount of water/vinegar solution, but it was clearly enough to find an opening between the two surfaces (which is still a bit concerning to me but I haven't pursued a fix). I am a lot more careful now with any cleaning solutions around the glass. I'd be curious if anyone else has experienced this or has suggestions? I am attaching a pic so you can see the streak. There is just no way to clean this. By and large, I give this stove a solid B+/A- and have recommended that friends take a look at it. I was interested to see that Blue Star now has an induction option. That did not exist when we bought ours. I got a 5 year warranty with our F&P so that was helpful and feels reassuring....See More30" Induction Range: Bertazzoni, Bosch, GE, Fulgor, Miele, Wolf, etc.
Comments (61)Since folks occasionally come across this thread, perhaps it's time for a 2023 update. Bosch Bosch has released a new "Pro" model in their 800 series line. The 800 Series Induction freestanding range (model number HIS8055U has front control knobs, but a rather small oven at 3.9 CuFt. While it does check my boxes for individual burner controls, preferably knobs, there's a few things to note: Oven size is rather small No bridge burner While Bosch themselves don't list out the wattage of each burner, it is a 40A circuit, so it may be a little less power than the Miele, Wolf or Fulgor Milano And this is a rumor and something I heard on a few appliance review videos, but unable to confirm: This product is the Smeg cooktop. If so, the burner power would be two burners at 3,000 W and two at 1,400 W. Which is indeed quite a bit less than the other top choices I had listed in the original post So overall it may look great, has front control knobs for each individual burner, but it may not have the power and/or reliability of the Bosch Benchmark slide-in induction range. Thermador They have been known for their "Freedom Induction Cooktop", especially in the 36" version. There are no truly dedicated burners, but a large "flex zone" on both the left and right side that are each powered by two separate inductors. You can use each zone as two individual burners or as one large cooking zone. You can slide pots and pans around over the entire zone and with several different programming options, it will remember your setting and transfer it to wherever you move the pan. Or you can set it to be in incrementally lower power settings front to back. So it can be on 9 at the front, 7 in the middle, 5 further back, etc.... Sear and just slide it back to lower the power setting. Extremely high tech and super impressive. So now Thermador has released this in a 30" induction range. The Thermador Liberty® Induction Professional Range 30'' Pro Harmony® (that's a mouthful) with model number PRI30LBHU is a sleek looking cooking range, with an impressively capable induction cooktop. What stood out to me: The Liberty or Freedom cooktop is phenomenally flexible, powerful and high tech. A little overwhelmingly high-tech even However, in a 30" range, it seems a little small. While the entire glass cooktop is 22 1/2" deep, a large section in the front is taken up by the controls. Based on some initial measurements, that means the flex zone cooking surface is only about 15 1/2" to 16" deep. I have to find one in person to confirm that, but based on images and scale, that's it came out to. Sounds awfully small to me And, for me, the biggest sticking point is the lack of individual burner control. On the 36" version there is a very sleek looking control panel that is very intuitive with a slider control. On the 30" version, it looks very much like the Bosch controls and hence not my personal favorite. But it may work for you All that being said, it's probably been the most exciting release in the 30" induction range world for the last year. The images attached are the size of the Thermador cooktop and the comparison the controls of the 30" Liberty range vs the 36" Freedom cooktop Other updates Dacor Has completely abandoned and discontinued the 30" induction range Fisher & Paykel Someone did point out that DCS sold the household appliance brand F&P to Haier. Which is a Chinese conglomerate that owns GE Appliances, Hoover, Hotpoint, Sanyo and a few other brands. I have not necessarily heard anything bad about F&P and know several folks have purchased F&P 9 series Classic models since they come in different colors to match your desired interior Fulgor Milano They seem to be more prevalent now than they were when I wrote the original article. And many people are quite impressed and happy with the quality. One re-occurring comment I see is that the oven seems to indicate that the preheat is complete, while the temperature is not fully distributed throughout the oven cavity yet. Especially in simple bake mode. The workaround seems to be to preheat with a convection mode to ensure the entire oven cavity is heated through and then switch back to the preferred baking mode. A bit of a workaround, but it that's the only complaint, I think it remains a strong top contender GE Cafe and Profile No major updates Miele Likewise no significant updates. The induction range is still on version 3 and remains equally impressive as it was when I posted the original article. Wolf Only has released a style update with a different oven door handle. Wait times seem to have gone down, but no feature or other technical updates As far as I know those are the updates I was able to find, so I hope this helps those continuing to shop around...See More40" gas range replaced with 36" induction range now or later?
Comments (10)We're doing what Sabrina Alfin suggested. 36" induction cooktop over a 30" wall oven, with a 6" cabinet on one side to hold cutting boards. BUT, I wish we had bitten the bullet and gone with a range (we're reusing a cooktop we bought a few years ago). Induction cooktops have annoying touch controls. They take cooktop space and they are fussy to use. We should have abandoned the cooktop and gone for a range with front knob controls for the burners. Agree with wdccruise about 40" ranges. We've been stuck with very old low-function appliances for 10 years, because they were odd outdated sizes and new models wouldn't fit our cabinetry. Stick with standard-sized appliances that will be easy to replace....See MoreLori
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