Haha. That's how it starts. I a few years, you'll be like a heroin addict looking for the next fix -- "hmmm, where can I squeeze in those last three or four new apple trees. I know there isn't any room, but I just had to have Baldwin, Pink Lady, and Rubinette" Trust me, been there, done that.

rouge21 Thank you for the link. I was not expecting big things so whatever I get I will be satisfied. The first one I got did not survive the winter. This is being sent as a replacement for the one that died so this one is free. aachenelf When I say visualize. I have pics of my gardens for each season. I look at those pics and think about what they might need or if there is a void in certain spots that I can add something to give it a boost. I have 4 acres so I have a lot of space. I have put in the bushes for structure now I am adding some flowers and foliage plants. mxk3...LOL I have had to put myself on a budget now that I am on a fixed income. That disposable income I had when I was working is not there now. diggerdee, You have to get going. Come on order something. I do not want to be the only crazy winter bird one. I do not think I will ever say it is my last order unless I am 6' under. I will probably ordering plants on my death bed. I do not like ordering too many plants online. If I can get them locally that is my first choice. The bulb selection online is always the best.

Bluegirl -- Your memory of the bush form of 'Shot Silk' as not being "real robust" is accurate. The bush form of SS on its own roots never is. Given your zone 8 environment, consider growing it in a container and giving it some protection from full sun during the mid-day to afternoon hours. If you can provide that protection, the plant will be much happier and its unique coloration will be much better (and last longer). The bush form of SS is something of a wimp (in my experience). The climber, however, is quite robust -- altho it also suffers if given too much intense sunlight in zones like yours and mine.

Brandy, you are joking, aren't you? Me as an enabler? I am embarrassed. I doubt that this term would ever fit me. I just try to be helpful:-) In addition, next year you will hate me if some of the roses will not be free of blackspot. It will be all my fault! However; Sunset Celebration is a great rose. Almost every rose balled in that Âapricot bed after the rain we finally got but not Sunset Celebration. I just cut a few stems and brought inside. Good bloomer Well-being is very nice but it does not do too well for me here close to the coast; I doubt that it would do well without spraying. In addition I find it a bit stingy bloomer. As I mentioned, we didnÂt spray since end of April* this year and Well-being does not have many leaves left. Defoliation could be partially caused by spider mite infestation but in front of Well being there is Belle Ãpoque and that rose is gorgeous! Healthy leaves and stunning two-tone flowers that are fragrant. *(DH just sprayed today and I followed up with calcium treatment to fight botrytis)