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Comments (133)HELLO AGAIN EVERY ONE, after my post on Sunday I discovered a few typos after I printed my tome out. Additionally I wanted to respond to saydes post. FIRST THE TYPOS-THE MAJOR ONES ANYWAYS: A. When I was talking about using a 6-burner module in a 4-burner range I stated you must " jump small blades 4 and 6 together and then ground them to a screw on the range. Not a big deal." IT SHOULD READ SMALL BLADES 5 AND 6. B. LEGAL DISCLAIMER: "BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GET FOR FEE" SHOULD READ WHAT YOU GET FOR FREE. C. When discussing the procedure to re-build/mount new flat top igniters, item #9, I stated you should put one or two washers under the screw so the igniter sits flat and thus stands straightThe washers should be placed under the old reused mounting flange so the igniter sits flat. The screw will go through the old flange, new washers and into the burner as it did with the old igniter. D. The new flat top igniters will have a mounting flange that sits 90 degrees from where you want the old flange to be glued. This new flange will just sit on both sides of the burner and will not interfere with anything at all. In fact it will probably make the new/rebuilt igniter more stable when attached to the burner. This will be very oblivious to you when you do a dry run as per #6 E. When I was discussing how to figure out which wires ran to which igniters if you got those wires mixed-up I said " the igniter will click, and you will know it is "wire/circuit x" so just mark that on the burner holder. In the next sentence I said plug the igniter wire from burner 3 to small blade 3, test it and you are all done. WELL IN ORDER TO DO THIS TEST TO FIND OUT WHICH WIRE GOES TO WHICH IGNITER ALL THE IGNITER WIRES WOULD HAVE TO BE PLUGGED INTO THE SMALL BLADES AT ONE TIME and YOU WOULD ATTACH THE BIG BLADES ONE AT A TIME, TEST, LABEL(the burner) REMOVE AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE. AS TO THE SMALL BLADES SINCE THEY ARE ALL PLUGGED IN YOU WOULD JUST REARRANGE EACH ONE SO IT WOULD BE ON THE CORRECT BLADE, IE: wire/circuit #1 to small blade # 1, etc NOW AS TO saydes post. There are two distinct problems. One being the igniters, which is the device mounted on the burner which sparks and the second being the ignition module which is the electronic device which produces the energy for the spark and monitors whether or not the burner is still lit. It is very hard to tell from the guybanks web site which ignition module(s) is new or old as the four of them listed, 2 white,( one obviously Invensys) and 2 blue (one of which I know is a Tytronics), all have multiple Viking ranges associated with them. The part I received (PA020042) was labeled as having been made in 2005. However the 4 igniters I received were all made in May of 2008 so I assume these are the new Viking igniters. So to answer your questions: yes, you can fix your Bluestar once and for all using the new Viking "flat top igniters" and Tytronics ignition module. As far as Vikings igniter problem I would say they have it fixed as long as the model you purchase has the flat top igniters. Viking appears to have switched from Invensys ignition modules to Tytronics, so as long as the Tytronics work better or are of a better design or quality then I would thing that problem is solved, although Im not sure if there is a Tytronics replacement for every Viking model. For those of you who dont want to go through the hassle of switching from Invensys to Tytronics, well now you have a place to buy them, somewhat less expensive and much more response( from what some posts say) Guybanks ships orders out in a day or two by USPS....See MoreAgonizing over decision between Bluestar 48" and Gagg/Therm Induction!
Comments (20)My Electrolux has settings between 0 thru 9 and with half steps in between those numbers, IE 4, 4.5, 5~~~~~etc. I can't recall the last time I needed one of those "Half steps". Changes in temp that you make happens faster with induction, as you don't have to wait for the gas burner, and its grates to heat up or cool down to the changes you just made. Also you can always go to the "Exact Temp" that you want, (time and time again with induction), IE "4" will always be the same temp, where as with gas, and the way the knobs are marked, (or more the case, "not marked"), it's hard to set the temp to "exactly what you had it set to", last time you used it. Of course the above isn't really a "Big Deal", as just about all cooks look at the "action in the pan", and adjust the temperature based on what's going on inside the pan, alto those that use gas may peer underneath the pan, just to get the temp in the "ball park range", but what's going on inside the pan is what really determines the heat settings, for both gas Induction and even conventional electric. What I would do, is google Induction griddle, or induction capable griddle and see what you can find, and find reviews on same. With gas or induction, a "Quality Pan or griddle" in this case, is More Important that the source of the heat. (IE a cooking vessel that transfers heat evenly and fast), is going to do more to get your pancakes "even", than will the choice of heat used. I say that based upon using just "El Cheapo" aluminum pans on my gas cooktop outside, where as I mentioned, I have to keep stirring continuously, versus using better pans, (All Clad knockoffs)" with the induction. I have tested for the evenness of temperature across the better pans, plus no constant stirring required when I use the better pans. I think the copper in the "All Clad Knockoffs" (Emerilware) contributes to the even heat distribution across the pan. OK, I just followed my advice as far as googling for "Induction compatible Griddles", and I found this thread, which You may find "useful". http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/827956 Hope this helps! Gary...See MoreFoodie or just a cook?
Comments (33)Definitions are according to the person defining them. There's a few people here who are FAR more than just "cooks". Call them gourmets or whatever, they're far more into it than am I and I learn from them. I guess I'm more of a pragmatic gourmandic cook. (My term so it's my definition.) I like to cook. I specialize more in simple but tasty. I don't get hung up on plating. Unlike others, I eat with my mouth and taste with my tastebuds, and my eyes do neither. My eyes get me in trouble at times with the cliché "eyes bigger than stomach". I'd have probably been a good chuckwagon cook or farm cook. I like good quality ingredients. I like to eat out. When I eat out I like to get something I either can't do as well at home or don't have time to do it at home or something like that. While I do enjoy good food, I'm more in the camp of "eat to live" rather than "live to eat". With age and health issues I can't spend the time in the kitchen I used to. I miss it but don't get too worked up over it. I adapt. Enjoy simpler things made tastier. I'm pragmatic and I don't get hung up on foo-foo fads or following the outrage du jour. I avoid certain things but when they're not proven to be harmful I don't get paranoid if they're in my ingredients. I like to utilize good butcher shops and places with good produce but am aware that those options aren't always available. Justin Wilson said of himself something to the effect that he's not a chef, he's a d@mn good cook. He defined a gourmet as someone who likes all kinds of good foods while a gourmand was "a P-I-G HOWG!"...See MoreHelp! Epicurious shutting me out.
Comments (16)It is an old email address. I do get the daily recipe emails though. And I sent myself a test email. Olychick, it's interesting that those automatic ones don't get to you at Hotmail. There's no way around it though, because the change-the-password request identifies me by the email address. I think. The password was from many years ago. I've been wondering if I changed it and forgot, but I'm pretty good about keeping track of passwords. They may be having real trouble. A woman commented on Chowhound 4 days ago that she got the password change thing but still could not get the site to let her in. I need to deal with an actual person. I said how can they be so unhelpful, and my husband said, "You are not the customer." True. It's all about tracking our information....See Morebbstx
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