Built-In Wine Rack Location: Over Fridge vs Under Island Facing Inside
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Comments (14)quote" We want to do this right w/stone facing, granite counter tops, refrigerator, grill, side burner, sink, and an umbrella holder to name a few "quote With your granite countertops this will be a breeze. All you'll need to decide is the length and width necessary for your drop ins. My biggest time consumer on new kitchens is determining my cabinet width for the chosen tile and the tile belt. Your granite man will cut the slab to fit your decking. Make sure and use a piece of quality 3"4" plywood decking, I like sanded birch. It's always the flattest. 36" is the normal countertop height you can also go 42", you'll need 33 3/4" or more tall and 22" or more wide for an under cabinet fridge. Purchase your drop-ins in advance so you'll have your cut-out dimensions on hand for the grill, side, and sink. If you'll post what rock your using and what Mfg and the Model numbers of the drop-ins I'll probably be able to give you your dimensions necessary. I save this info in a special file called "very useful useless info". 9 times out of 10 I can build my cabinets without the appliances on hand because I always save the dimensions on drop-in appliances by Mfg and Model number. If you'd like to know which ones you should use just let me know if you want the highest quality name brands or are willing to take a more affordable product. FWIW, I used the affordable ones on my summer kitchen instead of the better name brand Mfg's. IMO, stainless steel grills are just that, and I can't justify spending twice the coin to BBQ my yardbird. I'd be more inclined to buy a name brand fridge to keep my beer cold, LOL!!! See ya, Kelly...See MoreMicrowave inside pantry or under counter - will we hate it?
Comments (20)We rebuilt our existing pantry to include a space for our microwave. It's just a shallow closet (about 18-inches deep), not walk-in. We pulled out the old pantry and drywall above to create a space that went nearly to the 9-foot ceiling. We replaced the original door (a standard 36-inch-wide, 7-foot-tall door) with three sets of double doors. Below the second set of doors -- just slightly lower than counter height -- we have an open shelf: that's where the micrrowave is. It's a bit out of the main traffic path of the kitchen but only a few steps away from the main activity zones. We debated putting the MW behind some kind of doors (either swing up or down) but decided we use it often enough -- probably 3-4 times a day, mostly for reheating -- that having to open doors each time would be irritating. So far I'm loving not having the MW on the counter (where it was before). And access and usability have not been a problem....See MoreModify built-in frame faced 60 yo cabinet for corner sink install
Comments (5)@ci_lantro 1) smaller sink - NO. Clearly you don't cook. Or at least you never do dishes. Plus, I have no idea why you even suggested that to start with. I don't NEED to put a smaller sink there because there is already plenty of room for a full size sink. A "smaller" sink that is still big enough to manage a few dishes isn't going to give me more than a few inches of extra countertop space at most. The ONLY reason to go to a smaller single bowl sink would be if there isn't enough space at the corner for an angle-mounted full size sink. But I'm 90% sure that there is, without cutting into the drawer unit next to the fridge there. I may have to cut into the stile about 1/4" though. I'll know better when I get the existing countertop off. Angled wall cabinet is not a problem as it can easily be cut down - or rather "up", perhaps. Remember this is actual wood, not the MDF crap that is all anybody can afford these days. As I said in the OP "I may or may not have to shorten that corner cabinet where it would hang out over the new sink area." I know, it was super long, but that cabinet is not an issue. I can do the same to the wall cabinets to the right there as well, if necessary. If it's a problem, it is easily fixed. In fact regardless of what else I do, I WILL be semi deconstructing that cabinet anyway to install a lazy susan as it is virtually useless as-is. 3) CANNOT move the fridge as you say without losing ALL the upper cabinetry on the opposite side of the room. From the OP "The entire expanse of wall cabinets along the long wall is one big long open space inside, ditto the 8' of cabinets on the opposite wall." Plus, the fridge is WAY deeper than the dishwasher and would stick out too far there. I didn't post a pic of that but it is next to an exterior door and putting the fridge there would block the passage through there. That wasn't mentioned in the OP simply because the fact that there is a wall cabinet over there (single unit 8' long) precludes doing that already. 4) putting a corner sink over the current "dead space" is an excellent use of that space. Since "under the sink" is already pretty much dead space. But if I WERE going to replace cabinetry there is no way I would leave that "dead space" dead, I'd at least put in a lazy suzan corner cabinet. "Dead space" should NEVER be left "dead". Unfortunately the kitchen backs onto the bathroom there (the toilet is on the opposite side of that wall) or I would have seriously considered cutting into that wall (NOT a supporting wall) from the back and gaining access to that space that way. Honestly I think those L corners are the best place to put a sink with the least wastage. Plus that space all the way back in the corner is already too hard to reach when looked at in the context of "working" counter space. Currently it just collects kitchen "driftwood" until I get fed up and clear it out again. But it is PERFECT for putting dishwashing accoutrements behind an angle-mounted sink, that you only need to get at briefly while doing dishes. In fact if this works out I'll be making a triangular dish draining "rack" to go there with a dish draining mat under it. PERFECT for doing dishes and not taking up otherwise usable working countertop space!...See MoreAt daggers drawn over Kitchen and laundry - Clutter vs Spacy
Comments (20)I have never made this comment before here: I think you need a talented kitchen designer to get eyes in there to make this the best it can be. Cost and maximized space use is something an expert can help with. I think the biggest issue with that half of the house is the sense of going from that spacious foyer into an immediately confining, constricting, cramped-feeling space that is the kitchen. A person has to get past that to get to another open feeling space. I just do not think the front part of your current plan does justice to the rest of your home based on the paper measurements. This is where experienced “eyes” and knowledge can help you. Is this concrete slab or crawl space/basement construction? I am asking because of the plumbing being installed. If you can redo plumbing, the current kitchen could be turned into a small living room and maybe the opening from the entry widened (adding the current mud room makes it bigger?) You could then have the remaining space to configure for the kitchen, dining (and maybe mud room entrance). Do you want a dining table or is island/peninsula seating adequate? Do you need to consider entertaining as you design your space?...See MoreLH CO/FL
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