all plants need sunlight ... usually ... when a plant is said to be a shade plant ... it is really about whether the plant can pump enough water.. during the heat of the day .. to survive ... if the plant can NOT ... then it tends to be called a shade plant ... a great many plants labeled as such.. are shade TOLERANT .... the best example of this.. is that ALL hosta in Britian ... are considered full sun plants ... and most the british authors claim such ... there are two reasons for this... the first is that they at at 60 degrees north ... the actual sunlight is considerably lesser in intensity that far north ... compared to most of us in the states.. that are 45 degrees north and less [there is a highway sign in the middle of MI that says we are half way to the north poles .. 45 degrees] .. and this is one reason.. the brits are a rather pasty peeps.. lol ... you probably couldnt tan there if you wanted too ... lol ... that said... they are also subject to a lot of cloudy weather ... so that even if they plant in full sun ... its rarely ever out.. lol ... here in the states ... anywhere north of the mason dixon line.. hosta can be full sun plants... especially if your soil can hold enough water during the heat of the day ... as compared to say.. my sand ... the only thing that happens... is that they can start looking ratty ... earlier in the season .... many of the northern wholesalers ... in fact.. field grow them in full sun [or used to anyway] ... to increase the root masses.. as they really dont care how they will look at harvest .... on the opposite side ... many of the full sun plants ... are the big flower plants... and if you are going to burn all that energy.. to produce giant flower displays ... you arent going to be growing them in shade... the best example ... is that roses ... the big hybrid Ts ... will not thrive in the shade ... mind you.. they wont die.. they will just grow more green leaves.. rather than flowers .... when it all boils down ... its not really about what the tag says.. or some resource ... sun .. like many other variables.. is a micro climate issue ... subject to soil.. location ... watering protocol.. etc there!!! .. more than you ever wanted to know.. lol ... just try it... and let us know.. how it works out in your garden .... ken

Nice heucheras almosthooked! I've never saved any seeds nor had one appear in the garden either. I found a site with some good information about growing heuchera. https://www.plantdelights.com/blogs/articles/coral-bells-heuchera-plant-varieties Here is some information from that site: The only downside to Heuchera is that they are short-lived unless they are divided every 3-4 years as the crown becomes woody. Unlike hosta and good wine, heucheras do not get better with age. They like an open, well-aerated soil that has good drainage. Heucheras prefer neutral pH soils and while they will grow fine in slightly acid soils, they will not fair well in extremely acid soils. What Heuchera also will not tolerate is heavy soil combined with winter moisture...both sure killers. A raised bed is best because it will keep the soil well drained and improve air circulation. Heuchera are generally self-sterile and so gardeners who want seed will need to plant more than one species or cultivar. The flowers appear in the summer and the seeds will be ready six weeks after pollination when the seed pods turn brown and split open. The seed can be collected and sown immediately. Germination will occur in 30 days and the seedlings will be ready to pot up by fall. In addition, Heuchera and x Heucherella can be divided. Dig up the three-year-old clumps and pull the rooted offsets apart. The smaller offsets may need to be potted, then replanted in a well-prepared bed. I have done this in both summer and winter with good success. The offsets can also be treated like a stem cutting, and will root easily without any rooting hormone as long as they are protected from desiccation during the rooting process. With a little more care, gardeners may also have success by removing a leaf at the base along with a small piece of stem tissue and rooting the leaf/stem cutting.

debra..one more comment about my neighbor's bad taste and I'll stop haha.. have you EVER seen anyone hang fake ivy and plastic trellis on a fence?..I bet the answer is no..I've had fun making jokes with several neighbors who also hate the look..ok I'm done.. gardenchick..sorry for the off topic comments..viewing this ugly place in back upsets me..I'm trying hard to block the view and just enjoy my garden..

Everything is looking good Utog! I love the leaf shots……always nicefor comparison. I hate that you used that W word! I am havhaving a hard time with tomorrow being September 1. debra