Newbie to gardening and just ordered some bareroot roses from DA (9b)
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Comments (18)Because you asked for O.G.R.s that are fragrant, easy to grow and have good re-bloom, I've compiled this list, that I've gleaned from observing hundreds of roses that grow in a no-spray garden in Oakland, they all survived 10 years, with no care but being watered, all are lovely. 'Arrilaga' a deeply fragrant Hybrid Perpetual that blooms more often then most of this class. Pink and shapely blooms. Some P.M. near the coast, easily treated with Cornell. Here it makes a compact 4' x c. 4' bush, you might ask Jeri, about its' health and how big it gets in soca. There are two O.G.R. classes that out-bloom all rose classes on earth:China and Tea. Tea by itself, refers to the Old Garden Rose class that in my opinion is far more beautiful than the modern forms of Hybrid Tea roses. Tea class roses are often described as being exquisitly delicate in style, and in my eyes, Tea roses possess an elegance that is supreme among roses. My landlady noticed my "Mrs. Dudley Cross' and wondered why it appeared so different from our neighbors H.T.s. Tea roses retain the natural charm of wild roses from which they were bred. China class rosebushes re-bloom faster than other roses, and most China roses have smaller, less substantial blooms, and are not commonly fragrant. Teas that are available from vintagegardens, that are no-spray in Oakland, Ca and are well loved by a large percentage of Old Garden Rose lovers, include 'Mme. Berkeley' pronounced Barkley, this rose has lovely substantial blooms that range from yellow and pink in spring, to coral in Autumn, and the foliage is dark green and very attractive, a plus. Tea fragrance. 'Clementina Carbonieri' gorgeous rich pink blend roses. both are large plants. One of the most elegant Tea roses is 'Mme. Antoine Mari" cream with light pink edges, one of the smaller Teas that is c. 5'x c. 5' in N. calif. ' White Maman Cochet' is one of the best roses in my garden and the bush form blooms more than the climbing form. White with a pink edge. Best wishes for a beautiful garden, Luxrosa...See MoreMy Roses in Jan 2017 - Zone 9b Isb
Comments (57)With all my roses pruned, there is no activity nowadays. However, when I complained to my rose nursery that the roses this year were not healthy, he sent me another pack, most roses of his own choice, at 80% discount. I am dealing with this rose nursery since long and many a times he sents a few roses free of cost Penelope (Hybrid Musk, Pemberton 1924) Brandy, (HT, Herbert Swim 1981) Memorial Day (HT, Tom Carruth 2001) Elizabeth of Glamis (Floribunda, McGredy 1958) Black Caviar (Astrid Grafin Von Hardenberg, Shrub, Tantau 2001) Daftrausch (Senteur Royale, HT, Tantau 1986) Andre le Notre (Betty White, Meilland 2000) Niclole Carol Miller (Grandiflora, Meilland, 2005) Pink Peac, (HT, Meilland 1958) JFK, (HT, Eugene Boerner, 1965) Souvenir de Baden-Baden (Pink Enchantment, HT, Kordes 2000) Princess Alexandra of Kent An un-tagged rose I already have two bushes of Princess Alexandra but he sends me a third at his own. No problem. I am not paying . I am fascinated to have Penelope, Memorial Day, Black Caviar and Andre le Notre. Have heard good things about these roses. I spent whole friday afternoon planting these roses... On Saturday morning me and my sons went up Margalla Hills for hiking. Margalla Hills National Park starts less than a km from my house. Here is one of the biggest trees that I saw in many years.... growing on the foot hills of Margalla. Yes, this is one tree. It is certainly hundreds of years old and Banyan tree do spread like this over the centuries; each root that touches the ground becomes a tree. This was last week. This tree is not that old but it is located high up on the Margalla mountain. We reached this spot after 2 hours of hiking. And here are few photos of one of my favourite palms, growing in the wild in Margalla National Park. Phoenix rupicola is indeed makes a majestic bush when fully grown. Phoenix rupicola grows up in the Margalla mountains at medium ranges. Here is one majestic specimen, isn't it? Another specimen This one has been through a jungle fire. The trunk is old but the leaves on top are few. Look how majestic this one looks. I am quite certain that if I grow this plant in my house (which is just 2 hours walk and in aerial distance, around 5 km from this place where this plant is going naturally), it will perhaps never grow this well. This is what I try to discover during my hikes. In nature, what makes the plants grow so well. What is God's Recipe for this lush growth? I think Straw would be interested to know this.... So many Phoenix rupicola growing naturally near the top of the mountain. I am so lucky to have this place just two hours hike from my house (in distance, it would be around 5 km aerial distance). Since there are no rose pics to show.... I thought we can talk about Banyan tree and Rupicola Palms I guess All photos shown above have been taken by me during my hikes in Margalla mountains. best regards...See Morebareroot tree roses not leafing out (help this newbie out) zone 8b
Comments (46)K s- thanks I think that's what I'll do. Since u got credit, I might as well leave them be and see if they produce and maybe I'll get a couple free rose trees out of it. I never knew about the antique rose nursery, I'll have to check them out at some point. The nursery down my block and the Wells Medina both carry rose standards but since I have a credit I rather save my money and buy from JP again, although I'm a little nervous about the same thing happening....See MoreRating my 2019 bareroot rose orders
Comments (35)Cyndita, Thank you for the kind words, and also for pointing out the fact that Heirloom does offer free shipping after a certain point. As you say, it does balance out the cost, and makes me keep Heirloom in mind since I paid $28.75 per rose at RU to get my roses delivered anyway. I think the kicker is that the sale would limit me to a very small range of varieties, and I haven't had two or three from my list concurrently on sale. This scenario is very possible: I get rose-weak and order something not originally on my list, and then I am toast because I have no space to put it or the space doesn't work because I did not research the rose well enough prior. Anyhow, still good for me to visit the Heirloom site from time to time - thanks for making me think of this. Had a busy weekend and my rose-buying spree continued - placed an order for 6 mins I needed (really needed, not rose-needed) for the front of a large planter from Mountain Valley Growers - an organic rose & shrubs nursery in Central California. They have a small selection of mini roses, all priced at $6.95 each for a 3 1/4 inch pot. They are having a fall sale going on - their only one of the year, and many products (but not all roses) are 30% off. I ordered one each of the following, 6 plants allowed for their best shipping cost per rose. Magic Carrousel Lavender Lace Redwood Empire Renny Strawberry Swirl Torch of Liberty All the above were 30% off - a total of $12.51 off my initial cost. Shipping was going to be high - I knew this going in. But in this case, there are three mitigating factors: 1) The initial cost per rose is low to start with, and the sale makes it better. 2) They are all organic, which is how I do things 3) I do get, for the cost of shipping, the rose in 2 days (reducing heat stress) Also, I do realize that I AM moving stuff from one side of the country to another, so of course it is going to cost money - $29.95 in this case, or $4.99/ rose. The total cost was $59.14 or $9.85/ rose delivered to my house. They do have Ballerina included in their rose selection, though not a mini, and it is priced at $6.95. Since I didn't get Sierra Sunrise, Ring of Fire, or Twister, I knew I would have to come back, so I finished up my order with 6 plants and saved the others for later. Note: I ordered on a Saturday and had a question I emailed them, they got back to me within a couple of hours, on a Saturday, during their only sale of the year. Now that is something! Eden is a rose I have been looking for over the last 2 years, but somehow, not able to find it in stock or something else comes up while placing an order. Searching for this led me to Ebay and Etsy, and at $21.98 and $19.99 (shipping included). I am sure one would have to take precautions against disease/ quarantine the rose for a time etc, but I do wonder if this endeavor would turn out successfully. The Etsy seller states that she is an organic grower as well. And speaking of non-traditional vendors of roses, we apparently have a new player in the game - Wal-mart!. Yes, they always carried the Knockouts and the Parade Minis, and it isn't too much of a reach to go on to Easy Elegance and Drift roses. But I found Lavender Veranda, Cream Veranda, Cl. America, Sun Flare, Zephirine Drouhin, Blanc Double de Coubert (!!), Hot Cocoa, New Dawn, Lavender Meidiland, Blaze, New Dawn and Fourth of July. Well, color me surprised!!! These are all from Hirt's Gardens, and I personally have had trouble growing one of their bulb products, but the good part is, if you did get the rose, you have the return guarantee from Wal-Mart. Another rose that I found while loitering around Walmart.com was Brindabella. Now, this rose caught my eye at the local grocery store (a New England specific chain that places extremely high quality standards on incoming produce and floral stock), and I saw that it was not just one rose, but a new series. Off I went to Helpmefind.com, and see that Mrs. Sylvia and Mr. John Gray of Australia are breeding an entire new series of Brindabella, and the Pastel Tiger looks amazing! I do think the claim of stopping you in your tracks with the rose's perfume in inaccurate, as I walked by a Brindabella and hardly smelled anything. But, perhaps it was due to the most of the blooms being older. I will say this, the thing is fairly floriferous and seems to drop its petals cleanly....See MoreCeresMer Zone 7a NJ
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