Hi all. Isn't the internet wonderful: connecting rose people from around the world? : ) Playinmud, from what I can see, your rose looks like "Louise Yeadaker"! The photos of Duet on HMF don't look like the "Ubel's Pink", but photos elsewhere do. Regarding "Duet's" fragrance, several years ago while visiting gardens in CA, I made a notation in my journal which read, " Duet - fragrance YUCK." I remember nothing else about the rose aside from the fact that I detected an unpleasant smell. I don't find "Uebel's Pink" to be unpleasant, but must say, that chemical/burnt sweet smell could have caught me off-guard several years ago. Who knows? I'm at least a week from my first bloom of "Radiance." One sniff and we'll be able to ID "UP" as "Radiance", or not. Thanks again for your help. Jen.

You're welcome Kate, actually I went out today and measured for you, it's grown another 5" wide, still same height. So it's 30"tall x 45"wide. I added two more pics to HMF, one a partial bud/bloom. I told you that I add the info for others in the same zone or conditions who might be interested in the roses I grow. I wish when I was picking roses I could have found the info I am giving. I wouldn't have had to do so much transplanting. Yes, Sequoia Nursery is a few blocks away from me:) I back their roses 100% and bought from them since the '80's. Actually I like every rose I grow Kate, it's whatever is the best picture that day is the favorite:) Thanks Kathy, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Les

Carol -- I am DEELITED to answer those questions, because they're part of why I love this rose . . . When the remnants of the Donner party finally reached Sutter's fort in Sacramento, Governor Castro sent a messenger, inviting the Breen Family to come to San Juan Bautista, and stay as long as they wished in the home he had there -- across the square from the mission church. Why? Because they were Roman Catholics. But also because the Irish-American Breens, despised by everyone in the party for their ethnicity (the story has some relevance for us, today) were the ONLY family to survive the disaster intact. They even took in an orphaned girl, and protected and saved her. So, the Breens came to San Juan Bautista, and the oldest Breen boy headed for the gold fields. And believe it or not, he actually struck it rich. He came back to San Juan Bautista, they bought the Castro house (now Castro-Breen) and bought up acres and acres of land in the Valley (much of which the family still owns, I gather). We found this rose on a visit there some years ago -- a whole group of us, including Mel Hulse, and Jill Perry, and my husband and I. We went through the place in the company of a Park Ranger who had grown up in the town. We were looking at the big rose out front, but she said: "There used to be another rose here. A red one." And by golly, there it was, all 12-inches of it, with some faded red blooms, right at my feet." Heck, we thought it was a little China! But THINK, if you were the Breen descendants, what rose would YOU have planted, to honor their parents? I think a rose named Bloomfield COURAGE is a no-brainer.

Wonderful!!! I loved the music too!! These are my favorites: William Morris, the moss rose, the big unknown pink, Moonlight in Paris, Tuscany Superb, Abraham Darby, Oscar Peterson, Munstead Wood and Ellen Tofflemire!! If you want to know the names of your unknown roses you can show the pictures in a new thread and ask for help identifying. There's quite a few there that will be known. :)