Hi Madison,

It might be a good idea to call and ask Matt when the roses you have your eye on would be restocked...

Did you add your email to the waiting list so HCR can contact you when the sold out roses have more babies grown big enough to order ?

I can highly recommend HCR for at least zone 5, my roses last Spring were perfectly healthy and grew quickly in their pots. All the outstanding facets of Matt's company make it worth the wait. I'm trying again this year for what I missed last year.

I'm sorry to hear you didn't get the size you hoped for from Heirloom, they are a good place to order the roses that can only be found there if you get them on a free shipping deal. I was really glad to buy an own root Austin at Heirloom, it was worth it.

Jan 1

I would also recommend calling them.

Matt is so helpful and he has a really good feel for what will be available for next year.

Hi Madison,

I live very close to High Country Roses so have been to the greenhouse a number of times. They likely have all the roses you are interested in growing in their green houses right now. They are just too small to ship.

When I've been there in the fall they are growing the little plugs from the big rose growers, like Weeks, or growing from cuttings. As spring rolls around they will update the website to show the availability of what is in stock. So you won't have to wait till 2023. You will likely get what you want in the spring. It is a good idea to add yourself to the wait list but I don't think I've ever gotten a notice so I'm not sure how well that works. It probably does let Matt know when there is a strong interest in a rose so he can grow the right number.

What you can do right now is get yourself a gift card during the Christmas gift card sale. It is going on right now so when you buy a gift card they will give you an additional gift card of 15%.

This is a direct cut and paste from their web site right now.

"Gift Card

$25.00 – $300.00

HOLIDAY SALE ON GIFT CARDS THROUGH DECEMBER 31!

Buy a gift card and get a bonus 15% gift card for yourself! For example, purchase a $100 gift card and the purchaser will receive an additional $15 gift card. Friends and family gardens already full of roses?? Then treat yourself to a discount and send both gift cards to yourself! The bonus gift card will be reflected when you get to the checkout page."

https://www.highcountryroses.com/shop/gift-cards/gift-card/

When the roses your interested in become available jump on them right away as alot of the newer ones sell out fairly quickly in the spring. Matt tries his best to estimate which ones can be popular but I'm sure it is hard to predict which ones will take off in a given year.

Yes High Country Roses sells ones that do well in cold weather. I have bought all my roses there since I found out about them. The bands are tiny but they grow really well.

Some random pictures in the green house from May 6 2019 when I was shopping. I didn't go in 2020 and 2021 due to Covid.

Just to give you an idea of what it looks like in their green houses.

What area do you live in?

Highly recommend this company, HCRs.

Most of the stock goes to showing as updated at the beginning of January. The discount on gift cards is a great way to plan for when they come back into stock, and you can always call Matt to ask about a particular rose if you are wondering if it will suit you. You can get the gift card discount now, order in January when they update quantities, and set a shipping date for spring in your zone so you don't have to worry about them over winter.

@mmmm12COzone5 re the waitlist, I'm pretty certain I remember Matt saying on a podcast that people were notified in order of joining the list. So if 30 people are signed up but he only gets 5 plants to root, the first 5 people get an email and everyone else moves up the line. I may be wrong but that's what I thought he said.

Thank you all for your helpful responses! I was sure hoping they'd have their website restocked in the new year for spring ordering. mmmm12COzone5 I live in northeast Iowa, z5a. I just moved here this summer, and brought a lot of z5 roses with me. It's on the edge of z4, so I mulched and heaped a good pile of dirt on them to keep them cozy the best I can! So far temps have been super mild, but we haven't entered the most brutal months of January and February. I'm praying that either the mild temps continue, or we get tons of insulating snow! (which I also wouldn't mind since my husband and I love to cross country ski!)

I am signed up for their waiting list, but still might give them a call to see if they can estimate when some of the roses I have my eye on will go on sale. I saw they have that gift card coupon, so I asked for a gift card for Christmas-I'm happy you all have positive feedback so I know I made the right decision hahaha!

As for the Heirloom roses, I am sure that being able to get an own root on a David Austin would be worth it-I bought a couple Hawkeye Belles (Buck Roses) and a Fragrant Plum. So nothing special and easily could've gotten them cheaper somewhere else. So really my mistake on choosing to buy at a more expensive site. I signed up for the "Bloom n Buds" rewards on Heirloom or whatever it's called. I'm just a sucker for coupons even if I still end up spending more money. I guess marketing strategies really do work on folks like me :)

Also, I saw on a RoseGeek's YouTube channel that High Country Roses have a coupon code that she gives out in her youtube video. Someone has probably already mentioned that in another thread, but I just thought I'd give you all a heads up to go check that out!

Madison,

Looking forward to your cold zone posts on what does well for you. I like to hedge my bets and get recommendations for ones that have done well for others in similar climates. I like cane hardy and lots of all season blooms so please post your results.

mmmm12COzone5 I will be sure to do so! In the past heaping up a big mound of dirt and mulch helps significantly in protecting canes. I also do it for my Endless Summer hydrangeas to protect their buds since they set their first flush of flowering buds in the fall. With the hydrangeas, anything above where the dirt/mulch covered always dies back, so I it really does make a significant difference in my experience!

It's entertaining to hear how people winterize their roses. My neighbors all ask why i mound up the roses with dirt until they look like volcanoes. At least I take the thrip solo cups down.

@berrypiez6b If you don't mind, could you elaborate on how you do the "thrips solo cups"? I'm intrigued... thanks!

That is what I do Berry. I really love it when good triumphs over evil.

@berrypiez6b Thanks so much for the info... I'd never heard of such a thing! I envisioned placing cups over new buds, or something like that as a physical barrier, LOL. I'll definitely do a search for it, but (like you said) I have a lot of good flying critters, so it sounds like I might trap more than I'd like. Thanks again!

@berrypiez6b just don't be discouraged when you find out your predatory bugs are also eating the bugs that you like. I have many mantises in my garden. They eat indiscriminately, it's rather sad sometimes to see them eat a bug that you favor.

Susan ,you're very welcome.

I should add that the thrips went wild over the other roses but for some reason totally left Evelyn alone.

A thread on thrip proof roses would be valuable to hear about.

Magpie, that is a grisly prospect I hope to never see.

Jan 1 is the date it all goes live at HCR! But, If you are ordering lots of ORG, sometimes you want to make 2 orders, 1 for spring and 1 for summer of OGR. Sometimes the OGR take a little longer to root, but you can even make both orders on Jan 1 and have the OGRs delivered later.

I highly recommend high country roses, I have ordered from Matt every year for the last three and have always been happy.

In fact I already placed an order for this spring because I'm to impatient. I did talk to Matt and he does have many of the roses listed they just aren't big enough yet.

Because of this post I looked at all the roses on the web site to see what is new. It seems like there are alot more choices than usual. I had so many I would love to try, both new and ones I looked at before. Some I've seen in person and wish I already had growing. But my immediate desire is to put a yellow in place of my Sally Holmes so I tried to focus on those. Moonlight Romantica is still catching my eye because of all the petals but it's helpmefind listing is weak. Fiesta Veranda is also appealing with it's bright multicolor blooms. Sunny Sky seems to be an excellent choice for what I want based on it's helpmefind listing.

I purchased sunny sky last year, still to new for feed back but it does have very good ratings.

I chose it do to the book ( roses without chemicals) fantastic info.

Dirt digger,

Any first-year pics and impressions of Sunny Sky?

Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures. It only produced three buds ,one I let open to be sure I had the right rose and the others I removed .

I grew in a pot all season and it stayed clean considering the amount of rain we had, just very minor BS.

I have high hopes for this one .

Dirt Digger,

I must confess to being a bit disappointed, unless you got it late in the season. Usually HCRs are producing good flowers the first year.

High Country Rose was 2 miles from a mandatory evacuation area of the Boulder County fires. Matt's neighborhood was in pre-evac but that has now been lifted. I think we can assume some of the employees were affected. The fires are still going this morning but the high winds are gone so they are fighting them. The 100+ mph winds spread the fires in an uncontrolled way.

We have snow coming which should help with the fires. But there are alot of people without power and on Sat. it is supposed to be high of 18F and low of 5F so lots of people will have frozen pipes.

We have power and water. But the outside of the house, yard and everything is covered in ash as we were in the direct line of the blowing smoke. Fires got to be 5 miles away so we took pictures of the entire interior and had our to go bags packed and by the door.

@mmmm12COzone5 so sorry to hear that. We have family in the area so I have been praying all morning for those affected. Hope you stay safe!

Thanks Joey,

We stayed put as did most in our area but some people who had seniors, who might be slow to move, got them and went to friends or families houses. That made alot of sense because it was dicey going to bed last night and just hoping the wind stayed down. It had decreased but kept swinging back up. Every time I woke up last night I checked the map just to be sure things stayed static. We were going to go north, pick up our RV and continue on north. Neighbors had called friends or family in the area and pre-arranged a place to go to in the middle of the night if they needed to.

Glad to hear you're okay!

I think he may be working on his website as well, I've been watching and noticed that his prices have all just increased in the past week by a couple dollars, still good prices but the roses that I have already ordered are now 19.95 as opposed to 17.95.

Didn't stop me from just placing another order for Victorian memories, Darts dash and Morden ruby however 😳. There was only one Morden ruby left.

mmmm, glad you guys are ok! Sure hope things continue to get better!

I'm glad you are okay. I hope they can restore power for those who are without.