Cloud White Benjamin Moore - Northern Exposure
K Y
2 years ago
Hi! I could really use some guidance on what to do about my paint color. After countless off white samples from Benjamin Moore (White Dove, Simply White, Chantilly Lace, Navajo White, Mascarpone, Cloud White, etc) I finally landed on buying a few gallons of Cloud White to paint the main living room floors. I have a primary northern exposure in this part of the house with some East exposure in the early am hours (8-10 am). My gut is telling me this is not the right color because it’s reflecting a lot of yellow (like highlighter yellow) but I’m worried after buying so much paint, I wasted my money.
My inspiration is to lean into the northern passive light and give the house a brighter airy feel in the daytime with natural lighting and a cozy, vintagey/antiquey feel in the evening with artificial lighting.
There is some greenery and a natural wood fence that is shared by the neighbors that’s potentially reflecting into the house. The other consideration is there may be a slight tint to the windows from an argon gas window that’s about 12 years old.
Here are some photos of a 1.5 coat application.
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Comments (75)It has been a while since the last activity on this thread, and I felt it might be beneficial to give my updated perspective on White Opulence #879 from Benjamin Moore as a paint color for main areas. Having lived with this color for a bit longer now since my last comment, I am beginning to understand how tightly it regulates what other colors can be placed with it for anyone who cares about a homogeneous scheme and also how undeniable the pink tone can be when applied over large surface areas. White Opulence is a tint of red, but it is so light that in ample daylight or under bright white lighting it can "read" as white. In average daylight, it produces a whisper-light pink hue. The effect of this is magnified the larger the area that is covered by it. Using this color on the walls in the main space of a large, open-plan layout with high ceilings, for example, will imbue the area with a light, yet undeniable, pale pink cast in average lighting. It would be a good idea to prepare not only yourself but also any other significant users of the space of the pink tinge before selecting this color because some people truly dislike pink, and it is courteous to work with all regular users of spaces during design planning to try to ensure no one will be overly uncomfortable with the final effect. One thing that hasn't been discussed is how White Opulence can cast a peach tone under warmer lighting colors, especially in the absence of any compensating daylight, meaning nighttime in most home spaces. If peach is a color you want to avoid and you utilize warm lighting -- that is, progressively orange-tinged the further under a 4000K color temperature you go -- then this is a paint color to avoid. The general recommendation is that 4000K is quite cool for home environments, so if you don't know what color temperature your home lighting is, you can probably assume it is warmer than 4000K if you selected average bulbs from your home supplies provider. White Opulence as a red-based white was an attractive choice for my main space because I already had a red accent in a permanent finish and personally prefer the fresh look that a red-white lends versus common alternate choices for main area wall colors like yellow-based beiges or blue-based grays. The problem is that so many home goods available are manufactured in colors that go with beige and gray wall colors rather than the faint red-white of White Opulence that color coordination requires more work than may be expected. Of course, you could decorate using pure white items, but what you really need are options for whisper pink basics which are hard to find. Adding stronger pink or red items is not always the solution either because you cannot feasibly fill the room with accents; you need some basics that blend with the wall tone. Then there is the issue of coordinating White Opulence with colors for auxiliary rooms if you wish to have some variety throughout the home while still maintaining the feel that all of the home's colors work together. Most blues coordinate with White Opulence, but if you have already used red accents in rooms painted with White Opulence, then red is challenging to pair with blue in most instances unless it is a dark, cool blue like navy. Where this has been a dilemma for me has been my hallway colors connecting the main open space to the bedrooms which are all different pastels. The color plan I have will work, and I'll enjoy the variety of colors that I have been able to make flow together, but to be honest, at times I have wondered how much easier the design process might have been if I had picked plain white for the main space. White is the ultimate neutral some might say. At the very least, a basic white for the main area would have given me more freedom in selecting fabrics and other home products for the main space as well as coordinating colors for other rooms. It is all too easy to second-guess decisions that will affect your life long-term. I am using Benjamin Moore's durable Aura formula in a satin finish, so I expect the new White Opulence paint will last decades. Had I selected a plain white or yellow- or blue-based off white, I might be back on this very forum wishing I had gone with White Opulence to add appeal beyond the standard choices. I hope this is helpful to anyone still considering this color....See MoreBenjamin Moore Whites. Chantilly Lace, Super White, Oxford.
Comments (6)First of all, the painters who paint kitchen cabinets seem to fall into two camps. The ones with expensive sprayers and use special cabinet paint, vs. the folks who attempt to paint with standard paint. We just had our bathroom vanity refinished and it looks immaculate like a factory finish. There is a specialty paint store in our city where he gets this special paint and it is Gemini Gem Coat lacquer paint and he used an expensive sprayer. I can't remember if it was $1500 or $2500, just to be used for cabinets. At the paint store, they color match to any color that you want for your cabinets. Definitely spend the money and paint large swatchs on your walls on different walls of your room to get a sense if you really like the color. The lighting is often different in different parts of the room and it will certainly look different in the daytime vs nighttime, and the type of warm vs. "daylight" lightbulbs makes a HUGE difference. I cannot get over how much lighting makes a difference with rooms of the same exact wall color and finish. I have dark walnut floors, and depending on the tone of your dark floors, be careful that perhaps a cool white won't really match with them? You might need a neutral or a touch warm like the Simply White? It's a major expense of labor in painting. it's worth it to sample a bunch and then you can rest assured you get the tone correct from the get-go. And paint a large section and not something small because the scale makes a difference. Just be careful that the white does not feel too sterile. I really liked the Simply White the most out of four that the sampled, but it didn't work next to my stone fireplace. I needed something a tad warmer than that even, and wound up going with Mascarpone. The Chantilly Lace is pretty and more bright white than the Simply White, but just see how it works with the lighting in your room and the tone of your floors. Once you find your shade, use a paint with high coverage that will definitely go on with only two coats. The quality paint store in your area will be able to color match it at least to 98% of the color. I've been told that they get it the most accurate from the paint itself (not the sample paint which is watered down and not as much colorant) but from a quart or gallon of the actual paint. The quarts are almost the price of a gallon so you are better off buying a gallon and can use that in a closet or as a base primer if you want. I will never buy Benjamin Moore paint again after my recent experience this past month. I bought the expensive Aura for the zero VOCs, and the paint does not cover at ALL in the white shades. I used a primer first. Takes 3 coats minimum, in some cases more. The Advance Trim is the very worst for coverage and too runny, even when carefully applying lightly. Be careful that some of the painters will add a touch of black to pain (they call "special paint") as a trick to get greater coverage. This throws of the color and makes it look dull in my opinion. It does not turn out right. I'm back to the drawing board for the rest of my house bedrooms figuring out which brand of paint I will try next. Such a disappointment with the BM. My painter said that darker colors are fine, it's the whites that's the problem with coverage....See MoreAndrea Morrell USDA Z5 / CAD 5B
2 years agoK Y
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Yayagal
2 years agoaburningham87
2 years agoK Y
2 years agoWell I’m following up with this morning’s lighting…the last couple days have been cloudy so the paint looked nice. This morning was full on sunshine and I got the highlighter yellow again.
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2 years agoK Y
2 years agoLinda Stefanish
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2 years agoKaren
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last yearOxford White eggshell in ktichen walls and bulk head; cabinets laquered with OW but I think looks more like SW.
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last yearMarylee H
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it‘s possible to compare them by their key colour attributes before sampling.it’s a great way to work out which is lighter / most colourful / most neutral etc
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