Minerva vs Ebb tide ?
Shanker Shamugam
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DC Zone 6b Atlantic Canada
2 years agoI've had Ebb Tide sine June this year. It's an absolutely beautiful rose with a wafting sent. It did turn magenta in the Summer but the fall flush has had the ost purple flowers I've ever seen on a rose. It's also very healthy in my clay soil. I really would reccomend it!
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