How to remove old shower valve, no screws, cross handle
Nina Sculley
2 years ago
Hello. I am trying to help my plumber identify this old faucet so we can remove and replace it. It was here when I bought the apartment and who knows how long ago it was installed. It's a cross handle as you can see with two of the crosses broken off! Doesn't seem to be any kind of screws, caps, anything that would come off and reveal how to remove. Any help appreciated! Thank you
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Nina Sculley
2 years ago
PRODebbi Washburn
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Comments (28)Bob, compression fittings are allowed for installing shower valves. Moen even has a video showing exactly how to do it. Shark bites are allowed too. .....In the U.S. The fact that something is or isn't allowed in the colonies doesn't really concern Mr. Nobel. If you aren't versed in what's acceptable in his locale , you should say so and take a pass at dispensing advice especially if you fundamentally disagree with the local custom. You may not like people who drive in the left , but have to accept it in places answering to the Crown. geoffrey, im sure you mean well - but a vapor barrier doesn't really enter into the equation since Matt has made no mention of a steam generator. Waterproofing on the other hand is part if the conversation - but that's different than vapor management. Now, value , and what you might do in your own home certainly have a place in this conversation (* sort of) but don't force YOUR bias onto someone else under the guise of "it's not to code" or "it's only for hacks" or "it's too expensive, or you can do it cheaper". * what you'd do in the States really doesn't matter a hill of beans in London . So, maybe some of you guys oughta pipe down a bit. It's OK if you don't want to help or are ignorant when it comes to UK plumbing. Hell, y'all don't even have an accurate handle on what's allowed in your own back yard. Please don't confuse allowed with your preference or good value or wise . You're allowed to smoke. You may not like it, it's cheaper if you don't on many levels , and most will agree with you if you feel it unwise. But, it's allowed and some will choose to do so and think it fine. And who are you to say their choice is wrong ?...See MoreBathtub valve stems removal
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kayozzy
2 years ago
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2 years agoNina Sculley
2 years agoThanks to both of you. I saw that article too! I've posted the side photo.
And yes, Hallett, I think that's right about replacing the cartridge. (Obviously he's trying to avoid sawing it except as a last resort.) Plumber talked to supply store who says it is American Standard. They've emailed company to advise.
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