I realize it will add to the budget, but if there is any way to move the door to the left , then you would be able to have a better layout by shifting the peninsula. Also, that small cabinet to the left of the window looks not so good. The other option is to move the door beside the proposed refrig location farther down that wall. That opens up some possible layout options along that wall. Where does the door go? That one might be cheaper to move than the exterior door.

Any chance you are replacing the window and could reconfigure, to move the plumbing and put the range on the exterior wall?

Thanks Mama Goose - that might work, and actually my wife brought that up today (although she likes that window and I think it would have to be closed up for the range hood.

have been thinking about this today. The door near the proposed peninsula could be closed up for a smaller window, the fridge could go there and I could keep a range sort of where it is now (and get rid of the double ovens). The 26.25" window is where the door used to be (and there is a wall into that family room with the fireplace now).

I drew up a plan (sorry it won't rotate) - am I missing anything or does this look crazy? Thank you!

Personally I prefer the sink between the fridge and the stove and island totally clear unless the island is near the fridge and a prep sink/ garbage disposer in the island for salad making. But that is me. Nice options!

Also - here is the family room. You can see the wall behind where the icebox is (which we want to take down) and you can see the door which I could turn into a window. We would do the same floor in this family room and the kitchen.

can't you utilize the wall where the little dining table is? that would offer you so much more.

make the peninsula w/an overhang for seating so you can lose the little table.

or

The symmetry around the FP would be ruined if you make the door on the right into a smaller window. Having said that, when we added a room onto the perimeter of the house, we turned a window flanking the FP into a wider opening into the new room. It's ap the width of the remaining window plus trim, but I still notice the difference. YMMV.

I like the L with island, but I'd try to adjust the sink to fit the DW to the left, out of the prep zone. If DW is next to the fridge, it will need a return panel to support the counter top.

Thank you Mama Goose. What do you (or any others) think would be best - (1) making the 36" door next to the fireplace a 26" window, which will allow for the room for the fridge or (2) making the large 83" window in the kitchen less wide (perhaps to 79"), to allow for the fridge to go to the left of the dishwasher and sink (that would allow us to keep the two doors around the fireplace). Thank you so much!

Does these options mean you can move the stove to the wall side? I vote for the smaller window.

Tozmo1 - yes, the L shape would allow us to keep a new 36" range on the wall where the current 30" range top is (exterior wall, better venting outside). Below is a drawing I put together showing the now 83" kitchen window being shortened to 79".

Gut the wall next to the kitchen , then a VERY large island instead of a peninsula....it will open up the kitchen and islands are much preferred today

Looks good. A 79 inch window is still a really big window. Giving up those 4" will make all the difference for a better layout. When you replace the refrigerator in the future, get a counter depth refrig. It will make the space feel more open from the den. Discuss that with your kitchen planner. To do that, you may need more width that you'll want to plan for as the refrig door will need clearance to open. Which means you may need a slightly smaller window. But you won't notice at all. I'm not sure of the details on that but mention it to the planner. Keep us posted on the final!

Thanks Tozmo.

Beth H - you asked about using the wall where the small dining table is. This morning I drew that up. We would put the refrigerator on that wall, and have a shelf/enclosure built around it. Instead of a island, this would have a peninsula with seating. The 36" exterior door and 83" window could stay for now (my wife and I are thinking about replacing both doors on the fireplace with windows, since we have the 76" exterior sliding door in the kitchen).

Everybody - please let me know your thoughts (we give up that small table, but we can sit at the counter and if we wanted a dining room table, we could fit that in the large family room at the bottom of the drawing opposite of the fireplace). Thank you!

Well, I have been informed by Dear Wife that she does not like the icebox being 6 to 7 foot away from the rest of the kitchen (nor does she like me using the word "icebox" in public!). :)

We won't judge you (or her) for the term. We judge only outdated backsplashes and prep spaces under 36" wide. 😁

Can you reduce the range to 30", keep it m/l where the cooktop is currently, and add the fridge to the right (current oven location)? I think it would be better to have the counter next to the family room more open, with the DW on that side. You'd have space for a 5' wide island.

BTW, have you ascertained that the wall dividing the kitchen and FR is not weight-bearing, and you won't need a support beam?

Mama Goose - we thought about keeping the range where it is, and deleting the current double oven to the right and placing the fridge there. However, Dear Wife (she really is!) would like increased counterspace on the sides of the range, which has triggered the flurry of plans I've been thinking about.

On the wall - the first/only contractor we had look at it said it is not load bearing, however they would confirm (it is parallel with the floor joists in the basement) before removing it.

Re: the wall--good to know, because if it's a bearing wall, requiring a beam, it would probably need a support post where you plan to place the fridge. So, if one of the remodel goals is to provide more space around the cooking appliance, and you can alter the doors on each side of the FP to fit the fridge to the left of the window, that sounds as if it will be the better choice for your family.

@hu-399122907 you are a peach! 💕 No help here, just appreciative of your efforts to find the best solution.

Hey Y'all - well now, Dear Wife said she would not be opposed to keeping the range and the fridge on the same wall (she said that is what she recommended in the first place, which I just don't recall). Put that together below - am I missing anything here? I really wanted a 36" range, but a new 30" induction will do. Another question - how much room/counterspace should be between the range and fridge? Cheers!