GE Cafe Platinum Gloss next to Miele Wall Ovens
3 years ago
Hi there, we are building what we hope to be our forever home and deciding on appliances have been a challenge. After a lot of research and a 3 hr visit to the Miele Experience Center, I decided on a speed oven and XXL steam combi stacked. To the right of the wall ovens will be the fridge. A Miele fridge is not in our budget, nor any built-in paneled fridge. I saw the GE Cafe platinum gloss fridge and fell in love with its look and 27cf of interior space. My builder can recess the fridge to make it look like a counter depth fridge, and since it has no handles matching handles is not an issue. However I don't know how the two finishes will look. The GE has glass over stainless so it looks very sleek and modern. Does anyone here have this fridge next to a regular stainless set of wall ovens? Thoughts?
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Thanks for all the comments. Sounds like the Cafe fridge is a great choice.
@Susan L there will be an 11ft island in front of the appliance wall where I can place stuff coming from the fridge and oven.
It looks like my choice of cooking appliances is changing. After researching comparable Speed and Steam combi ovens, I came across the Thermador Masterpiece line. I went to see in person at a Ferguson showroom and the gray glass of the wall ovens closely match the platinum glass on the Cafe refrigerator. I also like that their glass is not black so the light finish will look great with my navy blue cabinets. Also, I like their flexible induction cooktop since I often use big braiser pans for cooking. It is a lot more than the Miele but I'm hoping that it will be offset by the savings on the wall ovens. As far as service goes, according to the SA in Ferguson and Spencers, they will recommend Thermador over Miele (they carry both brands). I'm so excited about these appliances. It will be a looooong 10 months waiting for our new build.
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