Matte natural floor look with Rubio monocoat
Monika
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Pics to share? RubioMonocoat nordic white with smoke added on red oak?
Comments (0)We have red oak floors from a 1968 home that we are refinishing. I love the way they look sanded. I've read quite a bit on this forum of suggestions for people to use the Rubio Monocoat nordic white with 5% smoke added to counter the red. Would anyone have any photos to share of their red oak floors finished with this product or something similar that keeps them white white looking? Have the results been lasting and are you happy with the finish? I've also read that it's impossible to keep red oak looking like bare wood without it turning pink so not sure what to do. I was just hoping with todays technology, something has been developed. I tried a sample of Bono Naturale finish on a sample and it's nice but not quite what I was hoping to be able to achieve. I really like the flat matte look of the product but it still darkens them enough that I'd like to try to find something that will whiten them. I was also told that if I use the Bono white stain, that it will settle on the edges of the floor slats and as the floor expands and contracts with the change in weather that the edges will look like white racing stripes. It's been suggested that I use a very dark stain but we have yellow labs and if we use a dark dark finish, it will be difficult to keep the floors looking clean. These forums have been wonderful and so helpful during our renovation. Thank you to everyone that takes the time to post!...See MorePallman X325 or Rubio monocoat 5% white?
Comments (7)If, you are looking to maintain the raw wood look. It is much more than that. The Rubio 5% white will give you that look. Otherwise look to use Loba Invisible or Bona Natural Sealer with Traffic HD. Once again, have them make you test pieces to compare....See MoreLoba invisible or rubio monocoat
Comments (9)Both Loba and Rubio are "special" finishes. Special in that not everyone is A. aware of them or B. trained on them. Loba Invisible is a water based finish with a low-gloss finish (it is their "matte" finish in the AT line). It is for those people who want the LOOK of oil finished without the MAINTENANCE of oil finished. The cost of Loba (any of their options) will be the up-front material costs. They are expensive but thankfully you get MORE than you pay for. More benefits. More scratch resistance. Excellent longevity. As a water based finish, it has different working times (wet edges are very different time frame than oil based finishes). And the mixing can be confusing for a refinisher "trying it out" for the first time. Other than the learning curve and the costs, it is relatively easy to use...ONCE the refinisher understands the process. In fact many people praise how easy it is...AFTER they get used to it! The Rubio is different. It is a relatively low-cost product to PURCHASE...but the costs come in the LABOUR. Rubio requires PERFECTION when it comes to sanding. It can take an extra 2-3 passes with the sander (and much higher grit levels) than a traditional/water based polyurethane. So...your refinisher absolutely MUST be trained on the sanding technique. If not, it will look ABYSMAL! And I mean crying and a sense of hopelessness - "How did this happen?" or "What do I do now?" are the questions often asked once a Rubio floor is mucked up. So Rubio has extra costs hidden in the LABOUR costs...but the material costs are quite low. And then there is the maintenance. Loba = none. Just basic wipe with damp cloths, sweep, refinish in 20 years. Rubio = much more. The homeowner will need to have ALL the cleaning and repair products ON HAND for the very first day of possession. The homeowner should pay the contractor to give a "maintenance" lesson before the hand over of the keys to the house. This should include scrubbing technique, cleaning techniques and then application techniques with both cleaning oils, maintenance oils AND the coloured oil (if you stain) should it be required to do a full patch at some time. The Hardwax oils are lovely. But they require certain maintenance. And in a lively household that can be spot cleaning and reapplying the finish if a stain appears. Water spots will need to be dealt with by a spot cleaning and reapplication of the colour/finish. Adding in the yearly "whole home" maintenance oiling" is another requirement. This can be done in high traffic areas every year...and then every 2-3 years you can move all the furniture out of the way and apply the maintenance oil over the entire space. You then leave for 6-8 hours and when you come back it should be ready for the furniture to be put back. Happily this can be done room by room as your home allows...which means it can take a week or more to do all the floors in all the rooms if you go one-by-one. You are welcome to hire these jobs out...but the beauty of the Rubio is it is supposed to be easy enough for the homeowner to maintain. But that means the homeowner has to take the time and the effort (out of his/her busy schedule) to do all the maintenance. Loba...simply love it and leave it. I'm far too lazy to deal with hardwax oils. Regardless of how I feel about the LOOK of them, I know darned well that I'm too lazy to take on 20+ years of homeowner maintenance. Homeowner, Know Thyself....See MoreRubio Monocoat hardwood floor has SHINY areas instead of Matte - help
Comments (6)@Brian Adamczak I had to redo The Entire Floor by hand. I did not re-sand, instead I put on a second coat of Rubio to make the whole floor shiny. This is because I could never get the shiny spots to dull and become matte. I tried everything! My steps were: apply 2nd coat of Rubio chocolate product, wait 5 minutes wipe up as much as possible with a terry cloth towel by hand use a clean terry cloth towel under a handheld sander (Black & Decker Mouse Detail Sander) and get more of the product up and out use a Viva - like cloth - paper towel under the handheld sander to get the last bit of product up and out of the floor. I went through about 20 rolls for 1250 sqft. did not walk on the floor for 7 days I was (am) frustrated with Rubio Monocoat for not being honest about the situation and resolve. I spoke with them at length a dozen times. They were in denial of the problem - even though it happens quite often when you start asking around. Rubio does not recommend applying a second coat. But the problem was that the shinny spots (1% of the floor) soaked up more oil. Therefore I had to get the rest of the floor (99%) to also soak up more oil. It was all about making the sheen uniform with oil. Note, doing 2 coast did darken the color a bit. To be honest, I prefer the matte look over the shiny. In the end the upstairs has 2 coast and is shinny & darker. Downstairs has 1 coat and is matte and lighter. But the extra oil in the wood upstairs makes it more water spot resistant (that is helpful, because upstairs is where the kitchen is.) Whereas, downstairs with 1 coat, there is a tendency for the floor to spot when water gets on the wood. My goodness it was a lot of work. Best of luck!...See MoreMonika
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