Loba invisible or rubio monocoat
Christine Fosco
5 years ago
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Need expert advice - subtly white washed floors
Comments (14)I'm going to point out the Elephant in the room - the Red Oak. The inspiration photos you are showing are European Oak. So why not go with European Oak? I've lived in Germany where European Oak is THE oak product used for floors and it NATURALLY turns these pale colours - nothing else needs to be done. So why not START with the RIGHT wood? I've seen dozens of European Oak floors with a water based poly that have turned silver in SUNLIGHT. Yep. After 10 years...they did it themselves. So that being said....I would look to European Oak (start with the right material...you won't have to fight so much) and look at water based polyurethane. Done and Done. Now, to be clear, water based polyurethanes (especially the big boys) are VERY VERY VERY different from oil based. Here's an example: Oil based has a "working time" of 45 minutes. That means you can piddle around and muck about and push it around for 3/4 of an hour before you have to move on to another spot. Compare that to water based: Bona Traffic has a 2 MINUTE working wet edge!!!!! TWO MINUTES!!!! Now imagine the PROBLEMS Chuck in a Truck will have with something that is 10-20 times faster. In a HEART BEAT they will have mucked up your floor....and that's just the first 100sf feet. Imagine the other 4000+ sf. Yuck...sigh...heart break in a can. Go ahead and hunt down someone who is NWFA Certified Installer/Sand & Refinisher: www.nwfa.org (click on 'Certified Professionals' and go from there). But start with the right material = European Oak. It gets MUCH EASIER from there....See MoreFlooring Advice - Pallman Magic Oil?
Comments (33)@Sye Phommachanh As usual, thank you for such a clear and helpful answer. I have tried Ciranova's reactive stains on samples-Baro and Smoke. Their Baro was WAAAY off their color chart, even thinned with their clear. (Which...by the way...I discovered, thinning it with water achieves the same darn thing, lol.) The smoke however, I like. And it has a lot of variations depending on the strength of the mix. The Titan looks good on top of the smoke, though it yellows it a bit. I also tested their Titan on top of Pallmann...I love both and I'm glad to hear they will hold up over other oils. I cannot find samples of the colors I want to test from Bona--called various locations in and out of state. I even called Bona and they said they don't carry the sample pack anymore, nor offer any samples--told me to call and see if dealers have any lying around. This makes me wonder if they are prepping to discontinue their oil line. My local guy said they rarely get requests for it, so they don't carry it any longer either... My goal has been to know the floor product I want and then find a professional who knows how to work with it. (I see too many threads of people stuck using whatever contractor understands.) But if I cannot test Bona, I won't use it. I've ordered samples of Ciranova's oils and their Fortico 2C. (Fortico is what they told me goes over their Titan--I will double check their advice.) Fingers crossed that I love the combo and my search is over... Now...I have to say this about all the possible products, Ciranova so far has the very best customer service, the most informed website, the best answers. Seriously. I'm pretty good at delving into websites, but Bona offers no samples, almost no indepth online brochures, and I have to call to get answers. Pallman's offers a few samples, some brochures, but I have to call to get answers. Loba looks like a MIddle Schooler designed their site. But Ciranova has it all! They offer samples for every single product and a bunch of combo sample packs, every product has clear info attached, and I get real time answers from a chat room as I am looking at the products...I can even buy all samples without giving out my credit card...through AP. This thoughtful attention to detail bodes well for future customer service, don't you think? Thanks again. Will let you know how it all turns out....See MoreRubio Monocoat issues
Comments (71)Weve had Rubio on our floors and stairs for years, without a single issue! We’ve got kids and hunting dogs, so we are not easy on our floors This type of finish is also the most common in the world while what we do here in the states is not Most of the stains see in photos in this thread could be fixed in seconds with the rubio tanin remover. Any saying the rubio maintenance products are expensive dont realize the large bottle of soap will last a life time, as you use a cap full or less and not with every cleaning. it is important to understand that the look will be very different then the standard shinny floor you see in the U.S., rubio is basicall dead flat finish If you want gloss dont get rubio Also its far more repairable the a standard built-up finish Get a scratch on a rubio floor and you can hand sand it and put more rubio on Scratch a built-up finish and you have to refinish the whole floor Ill take rubio every time!...See MoreRefinishing hardwood, best options for DIY natural look
Comments (3)Agree with G&S. I've personally worked with many types of Loba and it is TEN TIMES easier to work with than Rubio. I like a satin finish rather than matte. Matte is hard to live with and yes, hazing is a big issue. Some of the best applications (when I sold flooring) was a homeowner DIY application using Loba. Once you learn some of the tricks, it is STUPID-EASY to work with. It works well with a low-nap paint roller. I've always said about Loba, "If you can paint a wall, you can use Loba." There are VERY FEW professional grade products out there that are as easy to work with as Loba. Bona is HELL. Rubio is SUPER PICKY (the SANDING must be METICULOUS or you will pull your hair out for WEEKS trying to get it "right"). Getting your hands on some of the other options can be a nightmare unto itself. I would take Loba 2K Supra AT in the satin in a heartbeat. Beautiful stuff with a lovely velvety feel to it with a low-gloss satin "glow" to it. Really stunning stuff. If you have white oak, remember to use Loba's EasyPrime in lieu of one coat of finish. The 2K Supra AT is SOOOOO tough that two coats over the EasyPrime = amazingly tough/beautiful finish....See MoreChristine Fosco
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