Grinding wheat berries for flour for bread; conversion to ounces?
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Comments (24)Whistle - Here you go.... 1. Scalded the milk and cooled it. Mixed warm milk, warmed water and o.j., egg and agave nectar (or honey if you are using it) in the bottom of the pan. 2. Mixed together flours (and vital wheat gluten and flaxmeal, if used) and add to the top of the liquids. 3. Add the yeast to the top of the flour. (Note I added the fat and salt later during the kneading. It takes stress off the bread machine with this much bulk to mix the dough WITHOUT the salt. The gluten develops quicker, and once the salt is added, the gluten strands tighten up making kneading a little more difficult. 4. Set Zo. on QUICK DOUGH. Press START. 5. After 5 minutes of mixing/kneading, be sure to check to make sure the dough has the correct hydration and adjust it if you need to. You want a nice soft dough ball. 6. After 10 minutes of kneading (or when it looks like the gluten is developing nicely, add the melted butter and salt. When the add-in beep sounds, add 1/2-3/4 c. multi-grain cereal (if using it - I milled a mixture of barley, rye, triticale, spelt, oats and rice). 7. When the kneading is complete, remove the dough from the pan and place in a dough rising bucket (or however you normally work your dough). DO NOT allow the dough to rise in the bread machine because this is more dough than suggested for the machine. 8. Allow the dough to rise to just under double. Punch down. Divide dough (I had 3 portions that weighed around 1-lb. 2-oz. each. Round the dough (so you have the ball formed into a tight ball with NO shaggy edges from the dough being cut, and the gluten strands are going from the top to the bottom of the ball), cover (I use plastic wrap) and allow to rest 10-15 minutes so the gluten can relax. Form, cover (plastic wrap), and allow to rise to just under double...... I made one portion into 9 dinner rolls (8-inch square pan) and baked the bread in 8"x4-1/2" NORPRO pans, but I also use heavy-gauge Calphalon pans that are the same size, or will use some ancient Bake King loaf pans that are 7-1/2"x3-1/2" (for dough amounts between 12-16 ounces). If the dough is over 1-pound, I'll use the larger pans. I baked my loaves to 200°F. when tested with an instant read thermometer. -Grainlady...See MoreBread flour: I am stoked.
Comments (10)I can identify with you, and feel so fortunate to have a stone mill just outside of town. They mill King Arthur White Whole Wheat Flour for this region. I purchase the same hard white winter wheat they use - 50# of wheat for $20 - and mill my own flour (fresh is best :-). This mill is also a part of Farmer Direct Foods and the baking scientist happen to be at the mill for the King Arthur wheat tour (see link below) and she talked me into buying 50# of "Handcrafters Flour" ($20) milled from hard white wheat with a protein level of 12% to 12.3%. This flour has a higher ash content. The ash is the mineral content, which is located just under the bran, and those minerals are important in yeast breads. It has a creamy color, slightly sweet flavor because it's milled from white wheat, is great for open crumb texture of artisan breads, and a great crust that is hard, not tough. I've been spreading the word about this flour to breadmakers at fairs where I judge foods because it is a superior flour for artisan breads. I gave my niece 40# of this flour, since I prefer milling my own, and now she's hooked on it. -Grainlady Here is a link that might be useful: KAF - Wheat Tour...See MoreHow do I clean wheat berries for grinding?
Comments (1)I'm not familiar with Insecto. I'd check to see if it's safe for human consumption. Contact your County's Cooperative Extension Office and talk to an Ag. Agent. They may have specific information, or can get it for you. 1. Are you purchasing new crop wheat (yet to be harvested this year)? If so, wheat that is 2-3 years old is best for milling, although new-crop wheat CAN be used. If you get new crop wheat, you might want to store it for a year or two, if possible, before using it. 2. Is this field run grain? Are you getting it straight out of the combine hopper and will need to remove the "solids", including chaff, beetles, cricket and grasshopper legs (and other bits of them), stones and other assorted solid matter? Or will it be cleaned at the elevator - harvested with a combine and then cleaned by passing through screens, sieves, or fans to remove chaff and foreign material at the elevator and bagged? 3. Are you getting food-grade wheat (for humans) or feed-grade wheat (normally destined for animal use)? 4. If possible, get the protein and moisture count so you'll know whether it's best used for yeast breads or low-protein and best used for quick breads and other baked goods where you don't want a lot of gluten development. If it's running 10% protein, or less, you will want to add some vital wheat gluten when using it for yeast breads. If the wheat has 14% protein, or over, that's flour you can expect will take a LOT of kneading to develop that much gluten in it. If it's high in moisture, you'll have to dry it before storing or milling it. 5. If you "wash" wheat, you MUST make sure it's well-dried in an oven or dehydrator before you use it. Wheat high in moisture will glaze over mill stones (if your mill grinds with stones), or clog an electric mill and ruin it. Glazed stones have to be removed and cleaned, dried, and reinstalled. It's always good to have an extra set of mill stones for your mill, should they glaze over. Personally, I've never washed wheat, even wheat I got straight out of the combine and had to winnow the chaff and sift the solids out of it myself. After it was winnowed and sifted, we blew the dust off with air from an air compressor. 6. Wheat is normally "cleaned" (or triple-cleaned) by passing it through screens, sieves and air from fans, not washed. Some operations even use de-stoners to make sure any small rocks/stones are removed, as well as a magnet to pull out any foreign bits of metal, and get the dust blown off it with air from a series of large fans. Triple-cleaned food-grade wheat means it's relatively dust-free and you get primarily whole seeds. Feed gain will be lower-quality grain, have more broken seeds and who knows WHAT else in it, and require further cleaning for human use. If your grain has a lot of broken seeds in it, then you chance having it go rancid during storage. Once the bran (coat) is cut or cracked, the germ oil is exposed to oxygen which quickly goes rancid. After purchasing hundreds and hundreds of pounds of wheat over the years, I'd rather spend the money on quality wheat with a known protein and moisture level, that has been triple-cleaned, and is food-quality, than clean my own; although I've never passed up free wheat from friends and relatives, even if I had to clean it. It's a LOT of work to clean a bushel of wheat. Nothing like sitting out on the patio on a July day in 100F heat with a bowl of wheat in your lap. First you pick out, or screen out, all the "solids". Then, with a huge fan blowing, you pour small amounts of wheat between two containers (over and over again) and the "stuff" (chaff, beards, bug-bits, weed seeds, etc.) blows all over the place. Then you sift it through screens to remove any large bits you missed, through another screen so the broken grain is separated from the whole. Last, blow the dust off with the air compressor. -Grainlady...See MoreWhite Spelt flour as substitute for all purpose flour?
Comments (7)Thanks, Grainlady. Actually, I went ahead and experimented by sort of combining the above recipe and a recipe I found on line for spelt bread. I used a combination of King Arthur whole wheat flour and the white spelt flour, about half and half, partly because I had already made the biga with the whole wheat flour. Then, I used the following recipe, adjusting the spelt flour amounts and water amounts to try and have the correct total for each ingredient. I used the technique for making ciabatta, where I let it sit, turned the dough, let it sit, turned the dough, until I was ready to bake the bread. It ended up making 2 loaves, which I baked in loaf pans, instead of ciabatta style. Surprisingly, it turned out surprisingly well, considering at the last, I tried to make one loaf out of it, and when I saw the dough spilling out of the pan I realized I had to deflate it yet once again and put it into two loaf pans. Here's the other recipe I used. I used dark honey instead of brown sugar. It's from Versagrain.com. Spelt Flour Recipes Sweet and Hearty Spelt Bread Recipe To cook this Spelt bread recipe you will need a 9 x 5 inch loaf pan and patience. Unlike white bread this recipe for Spelt bread will take twice as long to leaven. From start to finish, it will take 2 - 3 hours. Ingredients (Makes 1 Loaf) 1 1/2 cups warm water (just barely hot to the touch) 1 package active dry yeast (1/4 ounce) 2 1/2 tablespoons brown sugar 1 tablespoon whole flaxseed (optional) 2 1/2 cups whole spelt flour 1 1/2 tablespoons butter, melted 2 1/2 tablespoons brown sugar 1/2 tablespoon salt 1 3/4 cups whole spelt flour 1 tablespoon butter, melted Directions In a large bowl, mix warm water, yeast, 2 1/2 tablespoons brown sugar, and 1 tablespoon of flaxseed (optional). Mix in 2 1/2 cups of spelt flour. Let set for 30 minutes, or until big and bubbly. Mix in 1 1/2 tablespoons melted butter, 2 1/2 tablespoons of brown sugar, and salt. Stir in 1 3/4 cups of spelt flour. Flour a flat surface and knead with spelt flour until it pulls away from the counter but is still sticky to touch. This may take an additional 1 to 2 cups of spelt flour. Place in a greased bowl, turning once to coat the surface of the dough. Cover with a dishtowel. Let rise in a warm place until doubled (about 30 minutes). Punch down and place in greased 9 x 5 inch loaf pan. Allow to rise until dough has topped the pan by one inch. Depending on your yeast this will take between 1 - 2 hours. Bake at 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) for 25 to 30 minutes; do not over bake. Lightly brush the tops of loaves with 1 tablespoon of melted butter when done to prevent crust from getting hard. Cool completely. TIP: Place a loaf pan of the same size over the top of the loaf while baking to create a better crust. Substitutions and Additions Honey can be substituted for the brown sugar in this whole spelt bread recipe. Substitute white spelt flour, hard white wheat flour, or bread flour for the 2 1/2 cups of whole spelt flour to create an even lighter and fluffier loaf of whole grain bread. To give this recipe a crunch, consider adding walnuts. In this whole grain bread recipe we included the option for flaxseed because here at versagrain.com we are big proponents of incorporating flaxseed into your diet. Its high protein, fiber, and omega 3 fatty acids makes flaxseed a nutritional powerhouse your body can use to fight depression, cancer, and heart disease....See More- 5 years ago
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