I get my first dose tomorrow, I made my appointment and immediately tried to make one for my husband. Nothing available.

While I have to agree with Raye both about the various African and the English? one being less susceptible it also follows that any protection is better than none. It bothers me greatly the lag between being approved and shots/medicine being available has taken this long. It the virus or the next one was even more deadly much of the population would have been wiped out by now. There will be a next one and it is only the proverbial roll of the dice if it is milder or deadly.

Our county just sent out notifications that you can pre-register now. I did it immediately for my mother and for me. The message confirming my registration says it will be at least a month until I can get one. My extremely elderly mother will go sooner. I hope they have the process down so it works smoothly since she certainly cannot stand or wait in a line. My friend in NYC waited in line three hours to get hers.

maifleur03 - fortunately the English variation has been tested and is fully covered by the current vaccines.

Raye I look at BBC and there are still questions. I wish there were not but they seem to center on the different types of vaccines.

Kathsgrdn ,just wanted to say “thank you” for helping on your days off. Hopefully we won’t have to wait long for ours Saturday. They are asking for medical here to help with vaccinations.

Ded Tired, our neighbor (well, 2 blocks) who runs the local lost-cat list, is Val A's husband, and he was fast to get us the notice, bless his heart. We're 'pre-registered' whatever that means.

There is a calculator in Canada (or is it just my province of Alberta, I don't know...) that determines how many residents will be ahead of me. I work in a VERY busy drugstore (average 600 prescriptions per DAY) that does travel Covid testing (90 people per DAY), so I'm around a lot of people every day. I am an essential worker. I am 61 but have no underlying health issues. According to the calculator, 70% of residents will get the shot before I do.

California's Gov. Newsom announced yesterday that the state's immunization priority plan would be adjusted to allow those 65 years old and up to be included now. Beforehand it was 75 and up for those not in priority groups like healthcare, essential workers, etc, who were of course at the head of the line.

News reports I've seen suggest that areas of SoCal have been better at quickly mobilizing to set up mass immunization sites. Compared to where in the SF Bay area but I think this is welcome to hear for those like me in the sub-70 age bracket.

In Southern California they are setting up large scale vaccination sites at Dodger Stadium and Disneyland.

Hallgarden, so far my supervisor hasn't asked me to come in, but I have been working every evening since I told her I would come in. The hospital I used work at is having a mass walk-in vaccination clinic for everyone over 50 years old, over the upcoming long 3 day weekend. I'm supposed to work all three days so we'll see if I get pulled for it.

Each Governor is in charge of his States roll out. There is not standard answer. I will get mine at school. My dad got his at the VA. My mom will get hers from her primary physician...

DH and I are registered on our county's site. We are both over 75, and I have blood cancer, for which I receive infusion treatment. From what I read, our county will not complete vaccinations for the first group people for some time yet. (That's the 1-A group; we are 1-B's.) We continue to play "Home Alone" with DH making forays to grocery, pharmacy, library. Fortunately, our town's demographic means most here can afford to follow Covid-19 protective rules about distancing, washing, and wearing masks in public. This is not the case in other parts of our highly diverse county.

Terezosa! I got the first dose at Disneyland yesterday!! A fireman gave to me. It was well run. We got through in 2 hours, but we were an hour early so really just over a hour. People were friendly, and everything was well organized. I understand getting an appointment now is very difficult. There is so much TV coverage, they are slammed with people trying to make reservations. Supposedly I will get an email to schedule the second dose. I hope that works but I feel uneasy about that. I thought we would get it in the car, but no we had to stand in line, go through various tents and check points

LA County isn’t up to speed yet. When they get going, I hope they take notes from OC.

No appointment, you are not going in

There must have been a couple dozen tents

After the vaccine, you rest 15 minutes Then you leave.

I have never considered Disneyland the “happiest place on earth,” but for me yesterday it was!

"Each Governor is in charge of his States roll out. There is not standard answer."

I'm in 100% agreement with arcy's comment, this is my understanding too.

The CDC has put out guidance and the implementation (which can be expected to not vary from the CDC guidelines other than for timing) is a matter for each state to administer.

It's such a relief to look forward to the unshackling and de-politicization of the work and public communications of both the CDC and Dr Fauci (and the NIH of which his agency is a part). Leave experts to do their jobs without politicians interfering.

If you are concerned about standing in line, take a wheelchair or a regular chair. Or someone can stand in line and the other person wait in the car until the time comes. At The OC site, it didn’t matter where you stood in line. They called people by their reserved times.

"Each Governor is in charge of his States roll out. There is not standard answer."

Yes.

And in many (all?) states each county sets up their own distribution plan.

Living in a state that the governor does not have a clue based on his PR that he posts on his social media I hope most live in a state whose governor cares. I see posts on here about personal doctors giving the shots. Unless those doctors are connected to a site that has the equipment to keep the first vaccine that was super cooled I have my doubts that the doctors have that vaccine unless they have the Moderma one. I have wondered if the people on here that have received the first shot was given anything stating which manufacture provided the vaccine. The second shot is supposed to be from the same company.

as a front line hc worker, my dw was supposed to get it today [friday]. they called Thursday and said the weather will be bad Friday, so no shots. They will call back next week ...

bragu_DSM 5 I don't know what the weather is like where you are. But I fail to see what weather has to do with getting the vaccine. Is it storming to the point people are housebound?

This has been my topic to rant on nonstop so I probably shouldn't be answering but here goes.

Let's just say that although everyone promises they are on top of it, I have no firmer idea about when I would get it or where I would get it. I am over 65 and checking constantly. This is a very big eff up in my very humble opinion.

We all understand it's a huge logistical problem. And it will get better as your state gets more experience, and as supplies of vaccine and needles and refrigeration and personnel and a bunch of other issues settles down. So I *try* to not feel impatient.

But, I keep hearing my state (Virginia) has contracts with CVS and Walgreen's (pharmacies). Well great -- do they know how darn crowded those pharmacies are in my town? Do they know that where I used to live, there was only one such pharmacy for my whole county? Surely they must ... so I'm not panicking, but I'm not particularly happy, either.

as a front line hc worker, my dw was supposed to get it today [friday]. they called Thursday and said the weather will be bad Friday, so no shots. They will call back next week ...

Bragu, what qualifies as 'bad weather'? Is it going to be so bad that your Front Line health care worker wife won't be able to make it in to work?

Maybe I live in a world of distorted reality but, IMO, vaccine administration is up there near the Front Line. Or more like, in a battle and the pincer moves get called off.

I'm in the "too old for the young crowd" and "too young for the old crowd"

It will probably be May or June if I'm lucky. But I will wait cuz I refuse to wait in a line for 8 hours.

Salonva, I share your anger. Authorities have had months to prepare. Ok, it’s a massive undertaking, but we have public health experts, right? Wake up!

Los Angeles county is an example of very sluggish beginning. Not only that, the county is short of vaccine! Unbelievable!

Just read this morning that Phoenix is doing vaccines 24\7. If the demand is there, every county should be doing this. However, I do believe that things will get better but it will take some time, unfortunately. One guy on TV compared it to getting a freight train going: slow getting started but gathering speed. Let’s hope.

bragu_DSM 5 - they aren't giving out shots due to bad weather??? Unless it's extreme weather that's absolutely ridiculous. With that kind of attitude in state government its no wonder 80% of the doses received in my state are still sitting on the shelf. I have seen that the manufacturers are considering altering the deliveries to give more to the states that are using their vaccines and withholding from the states that are just leaving their current supply in storage. I think that's a wise idea.

If you look at the CDC's numbers Texas is receiving the fewest doses per capita but has given the highest amount of vaccines.

UPDATE: The numbers have changed today Texas is still first in giving doses at 1,043,624 but they must have received additional doses because yesterday South Carolina and Nevada have received lesser amounts.

"bragu_DSM 5 - they aren't giving out shots due to bad weather??? Unless it's extreme weather that's absolutely ridiculous. With that kind of attitude in state government its no wonder 80% of the doses received in my state are still sitting on the shelf.."

This thought doesn't make sense.

Are there any states that directly operate health clinics? Isn't it more likely, raye smith, that this was a decision of people at one individual pharmacy, hospital, or medical clinic that's actually administering immunizations?

The immunization landscape is on everyone's mind. An unprecedented task, 50 states all trying to figure out what they can do and how, and thanks to the outgoing administration continuing its pandemic head in the sand approach, likely a lack of what could have been useful federal guidance to help accelerate the effort. Perhaps thousands of counties tasked with figuring out what to do and how, some guided by their states and some less so. .

In several conversations with friends yesterday, there was a consensus that the massive effort to do what hasn't been done lately, with resources and people that need to be put together into some type of pickup teams in hundreds or thousands of places, it's inevitable there will be screw-ups, problems and delays.

To go where others fear to tread. For both those in this massive project and we civilians affected by what is and isn't done and when, we all need patience and effort to work together to get through it. Carping about this happened here and this happened there doesn't add to the peace and goodwill we all need to have until life returns to being more normal.

Ray Smith - Bragu_DSM lives in the Des Moines, Iowa area which is enjoying blizzard conditions today.

I just registered to be put on the list for the vaccine from our local health dept. They can't guarantee when or even if I will be able to get it but at least I'm registered. 65 and over group.

Interesting thing I noticed when I checked the surrounding states road conditions last night was on the 511 road condition map Covid testing sites for each region of the state were clearly marked with a circle with a white cross in it. No moving testing sites as in this state although the local medical sites can also test. You can click the link below to see what I am posting about. At one time it would show as a different color so people would know it is a link but not on my computer where it is just a slightly lighter shade.

Iowa Department of Transportation Traveler Information (511ia.org)

I'd hate to be the one making the decisions. Do you stop large events from happening (close quarter living, high risk populations due to race)? Do you get it to those who are healthy, but older? Do you get it to sicker people, but who are younger than 65? Danged if you do, danged if you don't. Please keep in mind, everyone wants it. The supplies are limited. Everyone will get a turn. Please!

Ok, 'blizzard conditions' count as 'extreme weather', per Raye's caveat. Even in Wisconsin where we know how to deal w/ bad weather. We don't need nor want traffic accident victims in the ER or the morgue.

Well just to update, my county health dept just ( about 2 hours ago) updated to say the those 65 and over can now register/fill out the survey along with others in group 1B. So I did, happily. I still have no idea how long it will be or how it will take place, but it's progress and I am grateful for that.

I too do not understand why it is not happening 24/7. I have friends in Israel who got their second dose today and they are not exceptions there. They have vaccinated well over 20% of the population. 20% is 20% no matter how big or small a population is. Ok I will try to calm down again.

100% what you wrote, Socks.

For those that hoped there would be more shots available as the shots that were held back so the people who received the first shot could have their second one the news today should have dashed that hope. Shots available in Europe have been reduced by Pfizer and I suspect the same thing will happen here. Just be patient and do not panic however do expect with the new administration trying to slow the spread of one of the Brazilian strains to have a real lockdown with the measures that have been taken in Europe implemented. It has already been mentioned that people who have had the virus previously can be infected by this one although the sickness is said not to be as severe.

Yes, Israel vaccinates more people in ONE DAY than Wisconsin has vaccinated since receiving the first doses on December 15.

Was it posted here that the supposed "stockpile" doesn't actually exist? That's a problem.

Easy enough to check on a lot of states' dashboards. How many doses they have received vs doses administered. WI has around 200K doses on the shelf.

Per CNBC as of yesterday, January 14:

Across the country, more than 9.3 million vaccine doses have been administered, out of a total 27.6 million doses distributed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/13/coronavirus-live-updates.html

Pressed into service (pun intended) Now let’s think. What large buildings with a ready army of generous volunteers do we have that we could use for vaccination centres? These are just two of them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-55689072

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-55683025

It must make quite a pleasant trip out for those who’ve been stuck indoors.

For many, it will be a first visit to a church in a long while. And for the rectors/vicars or whatever they're called, likely more foot traffic than they're accustomed to.

A good use of such facilities for the welfare of their communities

I have an appointment for January 26th and one two weeks later.

Why 2 weeks? To my knowledge Pfizer is 3 weeks and moderna 4 weeks.

Johnson & Johnson vaccine coming along through trials. It will be only one injection. That will be helpful getting more people vaccinated. Not an mRNA vaccine, different makeup.

We received our first injection today at our local hospital. Walked in and out in 20 minutes. No one was in line. Nurse said it was hectic early in the day.

Welcome to America--the most selfish nation on earth--people are line jumping where I live.

Be glad you have a line to jump, my state is only vaccinating medical personnel and nursing home residents. No sign of moving onto vaccinating other groups. The states dashboard shows that some days they are giving <200 shots while thousands of doses sit on the shelves.

Hospitals in my area near Washington DC vaccinate healthcare workers, essential personal, and others in the first sector of the first tier. On very good firsthand authority, I have been told that they have leftover vaccine everyday. People have not been showing up for appointments. This week the next sector is opening. This is a revision in the plan, so the tiers will overlap now.

My family in New York State found no appointment slots in their immediate area but found availability 2 hours away. I do not think that is jumping the line.

That's the point Raye. They are jumping the line and taking vaccinations away from medical personnel and home health care workers. They are taking from those who need it the most.

Last week our NJ governor added everyone over 65 to the 1B category. Yesterday I spent several hours but managed to schedule both of us for our shots. They're using a vacant Lord and Taylor at the mall and we're confirmed for Feb. 18 and Feb. 20.

But as others have mentioned there are greedy people - a neighbor mentioned that she has made 4 different appointments at 4 different sites in an effort to make sure she gets the earliest possible date. And then calmly said that she'll cancel the remaining 3 but only after she has the first injection. When another neighbor told that that her behavior was making it difficult for others to get scheduled she calmly stated that ' she has health issues' and had no choice. I just turned and walked away without saying a word.

California has administered less than one-third of the vaccine doses that the state has received. CA has received almost 3 million doses and administered less than 1 million. People need to start bombarding their state governments, governors, representatives about getting the vaccine that they have out of cold storage and into the taxpayers' arms. So much of this whining is pure deflection to distract from the poor job the states' administrators are doing.

When they exhaust their allotments, then they can start complaining.

For example, this is what we're looking at here in Wisconsin:

The first part of phase 1b — first responders, or police officers and non-paramedic firefighters (medics are in 1a) — starts on Jan. 18. Local health departments, such as Public Heath Madison and Dane County, are expected to provide most of these injections.

Other groups in phase 1b are people 70 and older, teachers, child care workers, prisoners and others who live in congregate settings such as group homes and mental health institutes, along with mink farmers, according to a plan by a state committee released this week for public comment. The plan is subject to approval by the State Disaster Medical Advisory Committee, which advises the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.

"The plan is subject to approval by the State Disaster Medical Advisory Committee...."

A hypothetical plan, not even a real set in stone plan. Whenever they get around to making a plan, I guess. Maybe sometime in the second quarter?