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Comments (100)So, I'm reading backwards and trying to catch up. Nancy, Sophie's Choice is a fine early tomato and I've noticed in some drought years that it is amazingly drought tolerant as well. I've grown it in maybe 8 or 10 years, as it has been available via seed retailers since around the mid 1990s. If you like old-fashioned tomato flavor that leans more towards being a bit tangy or acidic, you'll like this one. If you prefer sweeter fruit, this might not be a variety you'd like. Most years, the fruit on mine tend to stay on the smallish side, but that's not really uncommon with early varieties. It is great for containers as the plant itself is very compact. It does not always produce as well late in the season as some other early varieties do, so if I had limited space and had to choose between it and Early Girl, I'd choose EG over SC every time because you get more fruit per plant from the EG and season-long production. Chris and his girlfriend are blissfully happy, so I think she's the one, and I'm going to be patient and not push them because I just want for both of them to be happy----and if it is true love (and I believe it is, and I believe they both believe that too), then it is just a matter of time. We had a fun, casual and very relaxed Christmas lunch and we kept it simple---salad, lasagna, garlic bread, green beans and a simple desert (cupcakes and cookies). Chris took home leftovers for them to have at the house and also for him to take to work tomorrow (which is unusual, because the firefighters usually cook their lunch and dinner at the station, but maybe he doesn't really like what is on tomorrow's menu). The girls wore beautiful dark blue velveteen Christmas dresses but the rest of us were in jeans or sweats.....a three year old in a pretty dress wolfing down lasagna like a starving wolf was quite a sight to see...and she only had lasagna on her forehead, cheeks, chin, nose and mouth by the time she was done. I do think she managed to eat some of her lunch, but her face was wearing quite a lot of it too. She loves lasagna and ate very enthusiastically. I agree that you cannot go wrong with mac and cheese. I don't know anyone who doesn't like it. When we were planning our Christmas meal, I told Chris I could provide alternate food for the girls if they don't like lasagna, and he assured me that they both loved it (and both ate it just fine), so this was the simplest meal with no one requiring anything special or different. Tim and I ate more wheat in one meal than we normally eat in a week, but it was worth it. This lasagna is his mom's recipe, and what surprises me the most is that we've had this same recipe card, in her handwriting, for almost 40 years....well, I think about 37 years and Tim thinks 40. Either way, it is a miracle we haven't lost the recipe card in all this time. The card is getting pretty creased and worn, so we're going to scan it into the computer while it is still legible. Oh, and Tim must be the chef when his mom's lasagna is being made (and who am I to argue?) so the hardest thing I did today was make a salad and cook green beans--easy peasy. Kim, I hope all your journeys this season are safe ones and that you arrive home rested and ready to move on to the next stage of your professional gardening life. A little down time is always a good thing to refresh one's spirit. Rebecca, Your food sounds yummy and I hope the kind wasn't on the attack too much. It sounds like y'all had a really relaxing pleasant time together and I think that is how the holidays ought to be. Do y'all remember the Norman Rockwell image of the perfect family gathered around the table for Thanksgiving with the nice tablecloth and perfect place settings of the good dishes and the good silver and such? Of course there is the huge turkey on the platter and Grandpa is getting ready to carve it. I think it is entitled "Freedom From Want". Well, we had holidays like that in the 1980s and well into the 1990s, but things are so much more relaxed now, and I like this sort of celebration better. The food tastes just as good without all the fuss, and who needs china, silver and crystal? If we get any more relaxed and casual with our family, we'll be sitting cross-legged on the floor eating pizza. And, that would be okay because what matters is just being together. Jennifer, I am jealous of your snow. No matter how little you got, it was more than we got. They keep throwing some sort of wintery precipitation into our forecast---sometimes for 2 or 3 days per week, but as those days approach, it falls out of our forecast and we get nothing. I love snow, but I'm okay if it doesn't fall too because when we get snow down here, it more often is only sleet or freezing rain or a wintery mix and the roads get treacherous and it takes Tim and Chris three or four hours to get to or from work. We rarely get something that looks like actual white snow flakes. Sometimes we just get graupel. For chickens who need to roam more, there's always chicken tractors available, and some of them are fairly small and compact. You can buy them or make your own, and some of them are lightweight enough that one person can easily move them around the yard. Or, if you want to put the chickens in new areas that you can periodically change up (but this will not include overhead protection from predatory birds) there's portable, electrified poultry netting that runs off fence energizers. Some of it, at least, comes already attached to poles you can stick easily into the ground, so you can move it around periodically. For anybody not familiar with electrified poultry netting, you can see examples of some of those products here: Electrified Poultry Netting at Premier 1 Supplies Don't worry. The day will roll around again when there will be little ones in your home (at least visiting for Christmas) and you'll find yourself putting out cookies and milk for Santa and food for the raindeer once again. Our almost 9-year-old future granddaughter reported breathlessly and with great joy to us today that Santa ate 2 of the 3 cookies she left out for him and took one bite from the third. He drank all the milk. She was impressed and decided he must have been really full from eating cookies from all over the world and he loved their cookies so started in on the third one but just couldn't finish it. I think that pleased her more than the fact he ate the other two cookies. It made me smile to listen to her tale as our son and her mom looked on, as I remember when our son was the young child thrilled that Santa ate the cookies. At least we all understand why Santa Claus is a little bit rotund....after a solid month of eating too many treats between Thanksgiving and Christmas, I know our family is going to try hard now to return to more healthy eating, and much less junk. It was such a lovely, if cold, day today and I sort of hate to see Christmas end. It probably is a good thing it comes but once a year. So, now we start looking ahead to the good bowl games that really matter. I hope the Oklahoma teams do well in their bowl games this year. For me, the bowl games are the bridge that carry us from Christmas into the new year. Dawn...See MoreApril 2020, Week 3
Comments (92)Kim, Thanks for the info, but with all due respect, we are avoiding the entire DFW metro area like the plague and staying closer to home since there's over 6,000 coronavirus cases down there. Up here where we shop, we have or have had 2 cases in Carter County, 2 cases in Love County, 4 or 5 in Cooke County, TX, 4 or 5 in Montague County, TX and a few dozen in Grayson County, TX, so we're staying close to home until the case load falls significantly in the DFW metro.....and I think that is why I'm going stir-crazy. You know that almost all my favorite places to shop are down there, not up here. Nancy, I'll have to give the full report later, but we went to the meat market in Muenster TX on Saturday very early and then hit Wal-Mart in Gainesville to get a few things. We were home by 10:30 or 11:00 a.m. which is pretty good because Muenster is a far drive and most of our time was just spent on the road. Then, on Sunday we hit Home Depot as soon as they opened and breezed right in and out, and then ran over to the Sam's in Sherman, largely because I wanted to buy a couple of new water hoses and we like their 120' long ones since our gardening spots are so far from the house. We were at Sam's Club when it opened, and there was quite a line to get in, but by the time we parked and walked to the door, the line was gone, so we walked right in without waiting. Sherman was a real experience, and not necessarily a calm, soothing one. More about that later. I hope your shopping trip was successful. Now that I've been out and relieved the cabin fever and bought a few of the things I wanted, I think I can stay out of the stores again for quite a while. I know we'll be staying away from Sherman for reasons I'll explain later. Larry, I understand the feeling of being behind. I've never been this far behind in planting, and I am trying to stay calm and not be overly worried about it. Since our rain basically stopped, we are rapidly going from lakes and puddles and flooding to dry, cracked ground---you know how clay is about doing that. No rain is falling in meaningful amounts and it is getting hot fast. Our rainfall totals for April are far below normal but we're still above average for the year since January, February and March overachieved drastically in the rainfall category. I should be worried about both the early arrival of the heat and the seeming lack of rainfall over the last 3 or 4 weeks, but I'm so happy to be able to play in the dirt that I am not. I miss having cool-season crops, but had I managed to get them planted, they would have rotted anyway in the wet ground, so I just have to accept that this is how it is this year. Since it is getting so hot so fast, I'm going to plant mostly southern peas and only a small amount of green beans today. I can plant larger amounts of green beans for a fall harvest. When the rain almost totally stops in a rather abrupt manner and the temperatures spike quickly, that usually means a hot, dry, miserable summer is ahead and I don't care right now. I'm just happy the rain has stopped. Marleigh, Can you order the mower part online? That's what Tim has done lately, and the parts ordered have arrived within a few days each time. We did go to HD this weekend and he got some parts he needed for something while I bought plants. We were there shortly after the store opened and got in right away, found what we wanted and got out. By the time we were leaving, there was a line waiting to enter the store. Since we haven't been out shopping, I didn't know this was happening, and I was quite shocked. I do not think I would wait in a line to get into any store, and I hope I don't have to eat those words later if the shopping situation worsens over time instead of getting better. Nancy, I have grown legumes both with and without inoculants and I am not sure I ever could tell a difference. If you are growing beans or peas where any sort of legume has grown in recent years, you don't need the inoculants anyhow. The inoculants might be helpful in newly broken soil, but it would depend. We have lots of clovers and vetches growing here on our property, likely surviving remnants from when our place was part of a family's farm, so I haven't worried much about using inoculants over the years. Amy, There's nothing wrong with random thoughts! Was Margaret's open and did you get to have some goulash? My dad loved goulash and used to make it on the weekends when he took over cooking to give mom a break since she didn't like cooking. Rebecca, I hope nothing in your face is broken. I bet you have turned kinds of pretty colors by today. When Lillie hit that parked car while on her friend's hoverboard a couple of months ago, her face turned delightful shades of yellow, green, blue and purple. These were her first black eyes and she wore the colors proudly after she got over the shock of it all. She had swelling around her nose, but it wasn't broken. I think she was a little embarrassed to go to school with her injuries because she is quiet and shy by nature and didn't want for everyone to be staring at her, but she got over it pretty quickly, and her bruising actually faded more quickly than we had thought it would. I hope yours does too. Jennifer, I would bake my own bread (and we have stored the ingredients to bake at least several months worth of bread, so we could do this) before I'd stand in bread lines. I'm not worried this will be a reality for us though. I might be slightly more concerned that the end result of all the closures of meat-packing plants due to high infection rates of Covid-19 among their employees might result in higher meat prices or in some types of meat being temporarily in short supply. I hope Finbar is going to be alright. Chris has had to drive a couple of his birds to the vet in Dallas within the last few weeks, and his vet is not playing around with the virus. The lobby/waiting room at the vet office is closed. There are Do Not Enter signs on the door. They meet you at the car, greet you, have you fill out the paperwork there, and then they take the pet indoors to be examined while you wait in your car. This is a super busy vet practice because it is one of the few that actually sees and treats tropical birds (among other pets, not a pure bird specialist). When they are done, the return your pet to you, you pay electronically, and they give you whatever medications or supplies you need. He said the vet techs that come to the car are masked and gloved, and of course, you can speak with the vet on the phone if needed. I have to agree with dbarron that throwing up in a purse is a classic cat revenge move. Did somebody or something upset Finbar? Larry, I am glad you are able to get some things done. I hope the rain stays away this week and you can make more progress in the garden. There, it is Monday morning and I am at least caught up on last week. Now, I need to feed my pets and head out to the garden. Just to vex me, the sky is very cloudy and they threw a 20% chance of rain into the forecast. I'm just going to ignore it and carry on as long as there is no lightning. Dawn...See MoreAugust 2020, Week 3
Comments (51)Amy, We've always had various brown stink bugs in Texas going back as far as my memory goes, and the brown marmorated ones are a relatively new invasive species. I am sure Oklahoma has some of the same native ones we had in Texas. I see various brown ones here all the time, and not necessarily brown marmorated ones although I sometimes see one of them here and there. I think one reason that all the talk of the brown marmorated stink bug (and they truly are huge home invaders in the northeastern USA so I understand the concern) arriving in OK a decade or so didn't bother me because we've always had to deal with brown stink bugs...so, eh, what's one more? If a person already has worked (via caulking and such) to keep out the invasive Asian lady bugs, which we have had to deal with ever since moving to OK in 1999, then their efforts will keep out the stink bugs too. There's a great webpage of Texas' Brown Stink Bugs, and though I looked, I could not find anything similar for OK. Here it is...look at all of them. Some are common, some are rare, but they have to have been seen and documented in Texas to make it onto the webpage: Texas: Brown Stink Bugs I'm pretty sure the big box stores here don't get the brassicas until sometime in September, and perhaps not until October. I'll start watching for them and let you know when I see them. They almost arrive too late here. I really think they should be in the stores right now for proper timing of planting them to beat the cold, but they usually aren't. I believe the wholesale growers and retailers might be afraid no one will buy them in the typically vicious August heat, but that is when they need to be planted. If the cats were pretty big, maybe they've just moved on to the next step in the process. Wasps will get a lot of them though, and so will birds. I've never interfered in the process because I don't want to disrupt the food web, but butterflies are incredibly plentiful here in our rural area so it is likely we have enough to go around. In a more city-like setting where there's fewer cats, I understand why people might feel the need to protect them. Rebecca, I agree with you on fall tomatoes needing a pretty early start. I like to have them growing by mid-June. They won't necessarily set a lot of fruit in summer, but they'll be big and flowering when the August cool-down arrives. Coleus is very slow from seed. Takes them forever to sprout and forever to grow. Just press the seeds lightly into a fine, sterile, seed-starting growing medium and do not cover them up---they need light to germinate. If you're sprouting them at 70-75 degrees, they should sprout in 7-14 days. Larry, I am glad you and Madge are getting out a little bit. I actually think right now is a pretty good time to get out---the numbers of cases from the big July resurgence are falling and the fall/winter cold/flu/Covid-19 season is not upon us yet. Tim and I went to the Olive Garden about a month ago when we were in Sherman to shop at Sam's Club. It was wonderful! We hadn't been in an Olive Garden in years and enjoyed it so much, but it definitely felt odd with all the mask-wearing, social distancing, etc. About once a month we try to go to some sort of restaurant to sit and eat a meal as if things are normal, which they aren't. Back in June we went to Red Lobster, and that was enjoyable too. Honestly, as empty as these restaurants have been when we have been in them, I don't know how they are doing enough business to survive. We do try to be there at 11 a.m. when they open up, figuring that's the healthiest, safest time to get in early and eat and beat the crowd. Maybe they are more crowded later in the day. At the present time I feel safer in a relatively uncrowded restaurant than in a crowded grocery store. Nancy, I have made sweetened condensed milk from scratch using artificial sweeteners so it is not as intensely sweet as the version made with sugar. Enjoy all those potatoes. There are so many different ways to fix potatoes, so at least there's a lot of possibilities with them. Amy, I don't specifically take B-12, but do take a B-Complex vitamin that contains it. A couple of years ago, someone on the Oklahoma Gardening FB page said that after they started talking a B-complex vitamin daily, the mosquitoes started leaving them alone. I was skeptical, but figured for the cost of a bottle of B-Complex vitamins, I could find out for myself. Tim and I have been taking the B-Complex vitamins for a couple of years now and the mosquitoes leave us alone 98-99% of the time. It is as close to a miracle solution for mosquitoes as I've ever seen. At one point, late last summer, we ran out of the B-Complex tablets and thought we'd just wait and buy a new bottle the following Spring. Ha! Within days, mosquitoes were all over us and biting us, so when we were at Costco I bought their huge bottle of B-complex vitamins and we've been taking it ever since. Mosquitoes will buzz around us but 99% of the time they won't even attempt to land on us. I don't know if it works for all people, but it works for us, and I've been a huge skeeter magnet all my life...until now. As long as it continues working, we'll continue taking it. Was a vitamin B deficiency the reason mosquitoes always have flocked to us? Who knows? However, having plenty of vitamin B in our bodies seems to repel them from us now. Jennifer, Yes, the ones with the blue-black horns are the actual tomato hornworms. They are much more rare in OK than the similar tobacco hornworms with red horns which feed on all the same plants that they do. Hu, Getting a fall garden started in July and/or August always is the hardest part, isn't it? The heat and the grasshoppers both hang on forever some years and make it virtually impossible. I've started skipping gardening in August for the most part, but that's because it is rattlesnake season. A friend of mine here killed a huge rattler in his yard yesterday, a nice reminder to me to keep my eyes on the ground and to watch carefully for them. Larry, I'm sorry you are not feeling well. Getting older is hard---the body wears out and hurts more, and seems less cooperative. The energy level changes as well. I sure am learning to pace myself better as I get older. Those glorious days of working in the garden from sunrise to sunset when I was in my 40s and early 50s...yep, those are so far gone that I can scarcely remember them now. All the news from here, y'all, is not really good news. I am laughing at myself though because yesterday felt like Monday instead of Thursday since the girls had been here for a couple of days mid-week and we took them home on Wednesday afternoon, making it feel like Sunday. So, it felt like Monday all day and then I discovered it was Thursday when the weekly newspaper arrived in the mail, and thus I was overjoyed to discover it was almost the weekend already. (grin) All these August days just run together. Jana had a very tough day on Thursday, in what was already a very stressful week as her senior year of nursing school resumed this week and there's tons and tons of clinicals scheduled, some of them left over from the spring semester because Covid-19 interrupted that semester. The kids started back to school. They already were having a crazy week, and then it got even crazier. Somewhere around mid-day, Chris called to tell me that his father-in-law had passed away unexpectedly. I don't know his exact age, but think he was a bit younger than Tim and I. We had met him a handful of times and I really liked him but we did have the advantage of meeting him when he was sober (which he usually was not). Chris and Jana were up in the air all day trying to figure out who was going to travel to claim his body, make his final arrangements, etc. and neither Jana nor her siblings had any clue about his finances, whether he had life insurance, a will, etc. so they didn't even really know where to start. He was up in OKC visiting a relative, so that relative headed south last night to bring down the house keys so Jana and her siblings could search his home for paperwork to lead them in whatever direction for planning his funeral. Clearly this is a topic they'd never discussed with their father. Then, about 4 or 5 hours later, Chris called again, this time to tell me that Jana's great-aunt on her father's side had just passed away due to complications from Covid-19. This means that since December, Jana has lost her grandmother (her father's mom) to whom she was incredibly close, then her father's sister a couple of weeks later, and now her dad and her grandmother's sister on the same day. Every time Chris called me yesterday (a month's worth of phone calls in one day, I think) , the plan had changed and the grandkids were coming here to stay while he and Jana drove to OKC, then they weren't, then they were, etc. I just told him "whenever, whatever, however" to emphasize that they could drop off the kids here anytime 24/7 when and if they needed to and we'd take care of things here on this end. Oddly, just the other night at dinner on Tuesday, Aurora was talking about how great-grandma (my mom) died last August and she misses her, and then she mentioned that Great-Grandma Ruth (Jana's mom) had died last Christmas and she misses her too. She also reminded me that she hasn't seen all her Texas cousins (my sister's grandkids) in a long time and she misses them, and I reminded here that it is because of Covid-19 and we just have to be patient and wait for the virus situation to get better. We spent a substantial amount of time at dinner that night discussing how we keep them both alive in our hearts, souls and memories and I was impressed at how well an almost-six-year-old understands death. We never could have imagined she'd be losing her grandfather a couple of days after we had that discussion. The cool nights and early mornings here have been heavenly and it is nice the HVAC system has been getting a bit of a break. The heat was forecast to start cranking back up yesterday, but it really didn't do it. There's no rain in our forecast this week, so I need to keep watering everything, but there's two Tropical Depressions headed for the Gulf Coast and expected to make landfall early next week, and one of them ought to send rain up across Texas towards Oklahoma after it makes landfall, probably near Houston, as a hurricane. I'll be watching for that. It seems we always spend part of August down here hoping for a hurricane because it might bring us rain, though we certainly are hoping for a minor hurricane that doesn't damage coastal areas too much as it makes landfall. I am awake in the middle of the night. I went to bed too early because I was so worn out after a couple of really fun days with the girls, but then apparently my body decided it had had enough sleep and awakened, feeling refreshed, at 3 a.m. There is not much you can do at 3 a.m. except try to be quiet and not wake up your spouse and the dogs. I'd like to think I could maybe fall back asleep for a while, and I think I'll try that now, but the odds are that about the time I fall asleep, Tim's alarm clock will go off to wake him up...and it always wakes me up too. That makes falling back asleep seem pointless. I'm sitting here looking at the thermometer and it shows it is 68 degrees outside---a huge change from earlier in the month when we would awaken to overnight lows around 78-80. Have a great Friday everybody! Dawn...See MoreNovember 2020 Week 3
Comments (48)I had never heard of sugar beets until I saw that anti-Monsanto video. I guess I was ignorant and thought it all came from sugar cane. We don't use a lot of sugar either except at this time of year because of baking. I need to get that started soon. I've had a couple of requests. haha. Maybe this will be the week. You know, we did use quite a bit in our jelly making this year, though. Oh, Y'all, the pepper jams are SUCH a hit. Mason and Mack came for dinner tonight and just the 6 of us nearly finished off a jar with a block of cream cheese. I used one of the jars of "plain" jalapeno jam this time. I sent Mason home with a plain one and my favorite, the strawberry jalapeno. Anyway...so we did use sugar because of the jelly making. And I'm about to start using it again in baking. Oh, and I wasn't worried about Larry buying GMO seed. I also haven't had time to keep up with all of that stuff. My garlic hasn't showed up yet. Maybe I buried it too deep. How deep do y'all bury yours? Nancy, I sorta remember your cookie making two years ago...or rather I remember you talking about it. Maybe try the open toe Oofos. I have the flipflops. No sweat. I might then the clogs and wear them with socks this winter--just around the house. Also, the Hoka One One shoes are supposed to be good as well as the Vionics. I'm about to order a pair of each. Super expensive. If you don't bread your okra before freezing it, I highly recommend doing so. It makes frying up a batch of okra so quick! I seriously finished frying a quart of it in about 12 minutes....See MoreRelated Professionals
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