Dishwasher water supply line heating up and smoke is coming out
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Comments (15)Everybody seems to be trying to make a simple job complicated.... If I am understanding her information correctly she is only anticipating moving an existing dishwasher about 5 to 8ft. She oviously already has a 120v power source so it would be no real problem for an electrician to tie in at the current location then drop and romax down into the crawl space and pop it up to an new outlet at the new location. She most assuredly may have a tee put on the water heater line as she suggests, then have an angle stop attached on that line to transition from pipe to the 3/8 tubing for the dishwasher. The only caveate here is that in some jurisdictions they would require attaching a tag to that valve clearly marking it as the dishwasher supply cutoff valve. Now for the drain.... ALL CODES require a high loop. Under the UPC and in some jurisdictions under the IRC you are also required to have an air gap. The simple solution would be to lengthen the existing line from the DW and connect it to the drain where it is currently connected. If that is not practical they can then install a standpipe, which not only passes as an indirect waste, it is also an air gap. If this location is under the UPC the standpipe could pass through the floor to a trap below, and if the fixture arm from that trap to a vented branch is equal to or less than the maximum allowable length for a fixture arm, no additional vent is required. If she is under the UPC the trap must be on the same floor as the DW and she would need a vent on the riser, however if she has no other AAV's in the house, they could attach an AAV on the top of that riser....See Moreattachimg dishwasher with water supply behind a wall
Comments (9)I would begin by getting a reputable plumber to look at the job; First off, the only approved method of making connections on iron pipe is by means of NPT (national pipe taper) threaded fittings or in some instances they will allow welding the pipe(providing you have a welder that is certified as a pipe fitter.) Next, A plumber can be held both civilly & criminally liable for any death, injury or property damage that arises from failure of his/her work. Now consider this: In order to get a Plumbers License one must undergo a four year apprenticeship where you must work 200 weeks under a master plumber & report your work history to the state apprenticeship board (any week with less than 40hours doesn't count). In addition to working under the master you must also attend an approved college or technical school night school and complete a state mandated carriculum on plumbing. Once you have a diploma from the college or tech school, and a certificate of completion from the state apprenticeship board confirming your hours of service you are then invited to go take the state licensing exam. You then pay anywhere from $250 to $500 non-refundable testing fee and they will schedule you for a time and place to take the exam. You will also be informed that the test is an open book exam and you are required to bring a list of reference books that generally cost another $600. Any reputable plumber will examine a job and figure out a "code approved" solution. In this case, if the pipe in question is an iron pipe and not accessible without major demolition they may locate another source for the water line to the dishwasher, but I can assure you, no reputable plumber is going to risk loosing his/her license and serious property liability problems merely to save the homeowner a few bucks. The fact that he is telling you that you will need an access panel so you can keep an eye on the work is a dead giveaway that this fool is not a reputable plumber and I don't care how many years he/she may have been in the business. We simply don't need that type of ppl making it look bad for real plumbers....See MoreHow long does it take a new water heater to heat up?
Comments (22)alisande, I'll have to admit, as the new information comes to light, it does raise some questions in my thinking. However, from what you describe so far, I suspect you are ok for the moment. Your original problem seems to have been air in the system as the others described. However, and only going by your description and no technical data, it did appear to take more time to bring the water to a temperature you were satisfied with. After you readjusted the thermostat it appeared to be more to your liking. My conclusion is, your cousin didn't run the water temperature as high as you do. Maybe he has kids he doesn't want to scald themselves, maybe it was to save energy, whatever his reasons. A 50 gallon tank is a pretty good sized tank for 1 person and I think if you kept the temp around 115-120 degrees, you wouldn't run out of hot water if everything is working fine. But again, there are good reasons to run the temp. higher. My advice at this point pretty much follows your line of thinking. If everything is to your satisfaction, there's nothing to fix. Let us know if anything new develops, the more information you can give up front, the better answers you will get. I think most of the folks here gave you enough info. that you know several areas to look or have someone to look at to do some trouble shooting before blowing the whistle. You'll eventually be the hot water expert in your area. As for Iris, there are 3 reasons for the tag. Making a living these days requires a job and as many hustles as one can handle. 1-I grow approx. 3 acres of rare types of Bearded Iris. Many get sold, many get processed for the perfume industry and many get processed as medicinal Oris Root. Motion photography and filming is another area of endeavor. Someone touched on another area in one of the forums so I figured they must have known me. Now of course there is no way for me to spend full time in all these areas and my profession also so others now actually work them. I just usually pi$$ them off from time to time when I come around and start playing with stuff since to me, these are hobbies....See MoreWater Heater Supply Lines
Comments (2)Close but no cigar. Code requires a full bore shutoff valve (ball valve or gate valve)on the cold water supply line. Code prohibits installing CPVC or PEX within 6" of a gas water heater flue pipe. Typically the water line connections on a water heater are only 4" on either side of the flue so it becomes necessary to install a short section of metal pipe from the water heater vessel to the PEX or CPVC. You may then use galvanized iron pipe, brass pipe or copper pipe to make the transition connection. Code prohibits directly coupling copper to ferrous metal (Galvanized iron pipe or a steel water heater vessel). Code also requires a union on both the Hot & Cold water lines within 12" of the water heater vessel. Under the International Residential Code if the water lines enter and leave the water heater location horizontally at an elevation less than 12" above the top of the water heater vessel you are also required to install "Heat Trap Nipples" or a "Heat Loop". A heat loop is an inverted U section of pipe that rises above the line bends over and back down to the line. (Where required you can usually find a preformed copper U heat loop in the hardware or home supply stores.). When connecting to PEX or CPVC the easiest and often the cheapest solution is to use an 18" copper flex connector. You begin by installing the heat trap nipples or dielectric nipples (dielectric nipples now come prepacked with most water heaters). Connect the copper flex connector to the nipple and run it vertically then bend it 180deg down and turn and turn it 90deg horizontal where you connect it to the PEX or CPVC. This flex connection will then meet the requirement to keep the PVC or PEX away from the flue, provides the required heat loop and is accepted as a union function. Under the Uniform Plumbing Code you are not required the heat loop but both the Hot & Cold water lines must be insulated within 5 feet of the tank with a minimum or R-4 insulation....See MoreMei
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