Which kitchen sink? TopZero or a Create Good Sinks?
Sherry W
3 years ago
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Comments (22)Sink started cracking at the edge. Top zero came out to repair, tech refused to finish saying these cannot be installed in 1/2” ket alone 1” Corian and claimed it was incorrectly installed and that Corian was too soft, the counter was too thin and he refused to touch it after starting one corner for fear of damaging out counters. We hoped he resolved the issue by putting in supports under the sink to help with vibration from the disposal. He claimed the disposal was causing it to come loose but they never gave us a real concrete straight answer as to why this was coming apart from the countertop. Now sink is worse (see photos), it’s completely coming apart from the countertop around the perimeter of the entire sink. We asked for the owner Yavuz to meet with our countertop company at the same time to resolve for a permanent fix. It’s been weeks and will only send a tech again and wants to CHARGE US????. I regret this costly decision as this is not what was sold to us. If this was incorrectly installed all they need to do is let us know while the countertop company is there. But because they are refusing to work with us and come out to see this mess, we can only assume it’s because they know these sinks do this as other reviews show the same issue. By them not willing to even see this (they are miles within our home), they leave us in a situation where the countop people feel they installed it correctly. It’s a game of finger pointing and someone will be responsible for a new sink and new countertops if that’s the permanent solution. Top Zeros ‘fix’ was not permanent. It’s not sanitary. And it cuts my arm from the sharp steel exposed now. Someone is responsible and it’s definitely not us. Yet we are the ones a year later still dealing with this mess. As a designer I would NEVER recommend to my clients, unless I wanted enemies. This was not cheap to have installed, buyer beware. Read ALL the negative reviews online, on Amazon, on Reddit, on Instagram. Buyer beware. Someone will be responsible for a new countertop and it won’t be us....See MoreCreate Good Kitchen sink with ledge R13MLS1R
Comments (2)Good question to which I don't have an answer, as we're just about ready to start our long awaited remodel. I'm interested in that exact same sink. I contacted Dan via the Create Good website. I received his answer within the hour. Learned that the sinks are "handcrafted" (whatever that means) in Malaysia and the 33" single bowl fits into a 36" Ikea cabinet. Now I wonder how nicely polished these sinks are. I'm used to a European Franke sink (a corner sink that came with the house) which has a really beautiful shiny finish that still looks great after all these years. I was at Lowes and was disappointed in the dull looking finishes of their sinks......See MoreSinks! Drain location, Julien vs CreateGoodSinks, & prep sink question
Comments (33)@C. First of all, if you are 5'10" and have really bad back pain, then a 38" countertop height might still be too low for you. I'm barely 5'7" when when standing up as straight as I can, and a 38 3/4" countertop height is very comfortable for me. At 5'10", you could easily go up to a 40" countertop height. It is uncommon for kitchen designers to specify countertops much higher than 40" for anyone except a frequent kitchen user who is taller than 6 feet in order to retain the general usability for varying heights of potential users, but you may always do what you find best for yourself. I would encourage you to do a mockup of a 40" countertop height and try different tasks like chopping on a cutting board and stirring in mixing bowls to see how you like it. Remember that you should allow 1/2" for cabinetry leveling, so find your perfect height, and then subtract 1/2" (from the total of cabinetry plus countertop) when placing your order. The minimum possible front countertop ledge width is determined by factors which contribute to the risk of a break. I will guarantee you that ledge width in your picture is probably wider in person than it may appear here. Few fabricators will cut a continuous ledge (meaning without seams) less than 2 1/2" to 3" wide, and some fabricators will even burden you with a 4" or greater ledge, though that is excessive. The Galley issues guidelines for cutting the sink hole with no seams around the hole, but this technique complicates the handling and transport of the piece because that area is so delicate once it is cut. If I understand, correctly your countertop will only be 1/2" thick which may mean that you are using porcelain or something of that nature, and in that case, the substrate will dictate that you will need a seam for a narrow front ledge rather than having the sink cut from the middle. Porcelain is already fragile, and it won't survive the handling, transport, and installation with a pre-cut, narrow, continuous sink ledge. Be cautious of any fabricator who wants to install steel rods to help stabilize a front sink ledge. Those rods can get wet and swell and cause future breakage. The best policy is to avoid rod reinforcement. In terms of ergonomics, the height of your countertop and the height of your sink is relatively more important than how far forward you stand to the sink, but if you have really bad back pain and want to give your best effort to eliminating that in your kitchen, then an apron-front sink still needs to be on your list for consideration. I regularly operate within the full confines of the apron front which brings dishes and other tasks such as cleaning the sink very close to my body and allows me to stand mostly upright. It is the leaning forward at a sink that strains your back, and you will lose at least a hand width's advantage with a non-apron-front sink of your ability to work closer to your body to minimize leaning. For many people this is not an issue, and due to the fact that non-apron-front sinks are usually less expensive and more plentiful in terms of brands and styles, plus more aesthetically pleasing in many instances, the majority of kitchen remodelers are not using apron-fronts. Both Rachiele and Havens offer texturing for their stainless steel sinks, and if you look at their portfolios, you'll see that a hammered or otherwise textured finish is actually very pretty for an apron front sink. I have a textured finish, and it hides water spots and scratches and it looks as new today as it did several years ago when I had it installed. My only caution is that the interior of the sink should preferably be smooth to aid with cleaning. I believe that texturing can be applied only to the forward-facing and top ledge part of the apron front if you like that look. Spillage over the apron front is not a problem for me. Every now and then, I might get a small drip down the apron front, maybe after loading the dishwasher with something wet, but nothing more than you would sometimes get from a sink with a ledge that gets water on the front ledge and drips down occasionally. I would be hard pressed to say if I even have to wipe drips of water off the apron front even once per week. It just really is not a problem for me. It sounds like you are on the right track to helping with your ergonomics. As I mentioned earlier, your first step is to see if you can raise those countertops up to 40". If you do a lot of bread kneading or something where you need your arms straight down, you might consider doing dual levels somewhere in the kitchen. Generally, 41" to 42" is the upper stretch of a modified countertop height, and that would be for someone taller than 6 feet. The reason that we don't like to raise the countertop much more than that is because then they become unusable for people who are shorter. However, at a height of 5'10" with back problems, 40" is not at all out of reason. Be aware that if you wear shoes with thick soles when you are working in the kitchen or if you intend to put down a comfort mat on the floor that has substantial thickness, those factors could alter how you feel about your cabinetry height. Mocking up a height and doing various tasks is the most reliable way to determine what is best for you....See MoreAnybody have a sink by "Create Good Sinks"?
Comments (19)Thank you to everyone for posting this useful information. I am looking to install a 5' workstation sink in my kitchen island (with double faucets). I cannot use an 'air switch' disposal (light switch) and need the batch feed. This is a total bummer that CGS drain can't accommodate. i'm wondering which sink you went with @tedb1973? Kitchen Designer recommending The Galley but with mediocre reviews and close to $7k price tag, I'm wondering what else is out there. Thanks!!...See MoreSherry W
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