I have really dry skin. I use Belif aqua bomb under my eyes. When I first started using it one of my daughters asked if I did something to my eyes. It really plumps up my smile crinkles. I've tried other things but keep coming back to it.

If the skin on the rest of my face feels tight because of the weather conditions I use Cerave PM. I don't know if it helps with the lines on my face but it feels soothing. I really just show my age in my neck and under my eyes. That's plenty!

Dee, if you belong to Costco you should check out their Belif set. It seems pricy to me, but apparently it is quite a savings over the regular price. With your rave review I might have to give it a try!

https://www.costco.com/belif-skincare-moisturizer-set.product.100661848.html

I am going to try that eye cream dee! I love cerave products and sometimes use the PM in the daytime as it does seem to moisturize more. The last two winters I have used rosehip oil, yes oil and it soaks right into your skin, leaves no oily residue. I also like Philosophy "Hope in a Jar" and there is a retinal skin cream I get from Amazon that moisturizes well. Until it gets cold here and we turn heat on, I am using an Alpha hydroxy moisturizer and go with something heavier at night. I'll switch to the rosehip oil as it gets colder. I'm getting low on daytime moisturizer so it's a toss-up on what I will buy. I do need new eye cream, so I will try the one Dee mentioned. I am one who bought the hydro boost (burst?) moisturizer and eye cream when it was mentioned here. It was okay, but just okay.

I’ve been using the True Botanical Renew face oil for a few years. I love that all ingredients are natural/organic. Initial cost seems high but this stuff goes a looong way. One bottle lasts me about 4-6 months using just a few drops a day. When first applied it feels so oily but it soaks into your skin fast and leaves your face feeling hydrated and not oily at all.

i use a few of the other TB products and highly recommend this company. Customer service is great too. Their lip balm is DIVINE!

I think you get a discount if you sign up for email.

https://truebotanicals.com/products/pure-radiance-oil-renew

I've never heard of the product Dee uses, but I don't think it's that pricy. I pay more for Clinique Moisture Surge which I think is moderately priced.

Oh! Thanks for the reminder about oils! I do have a facial oil from Drunk Elephant that I put away for the summer. Doh! Time to break it out again.

Tina, I also didn’t get great results from the hydro boost even though so many rave about it.

Off to look up Belif aqua bomb...

I love Eucerin Q10 antiwrinkle face cream. It is super duper moisturizing and does not clog my pores. It is my all time favorite daily and nightly lotion.

Edit to add. It costs between 8.00 to 10.00 for 1.7 ounces. I get mine on Amazon for 8.00.

I use one of the basic Oil of Olay moisturizers, Age Defying Classic. I use the same cleanser, all have purple and black label. Works great for me and doesn't cost a fortune. I do find as we go into dry season I need to apply it twice as my skin still feels dry after first application but good after second.

Here is my current lineup. Don't judge the multiple jars of night creams as I have been trying (and mostly failing) to find one I like lately. I actually love all 3, but the Kiehl’s or the new Estee Lauder are going to be the final choices for night cream. I received a sample somewhere of the EL recently and was really loving the feel so I bought it recently. Maybe you can find a sample, Sue.

I have settled on the SkinCeuticals eye cream for night and the Kiehl’s for day eyes. I’ve used the BB Vitamin Enriched Face Base over SkinCeuticals CE Fereulic for daytime for years so that isn’t changing. It was the night cream that had me stumped. I don’t care for CeraVe anything, but bought some and DH likes it so he has the jar. I like the Clinique Moisture surge too but it didn’t seem like quite enough for my 72-year-old skin.

I also have some BB face oil and use it in winter if my face gets really chapped. Actually the small bottle I bought lasts forever because I seldom use it. If you can get a sample, try it, as it smells great.

I also use Eucerin Q10 as my moisturizer. Thanks, Amy, for the Amazon tip, I usually get it at Walmart.

Sueb, I don't think anything moisturizer can actually help those fine lines. I think you need Botox or fillers to get the results you want.

Terriks, does the Belif actually reduce fine lines?

eld, for me, the belif eye gel plumps up my skin so the crepey lines under my eyes are diminished. I have very fair and dry skin.

I just gave it a test this morning. Belif under one eye, nothing on the other. I was worried that I just suggested a $38 eye cream and maybe I was fooling myself :) I definitely noticed a difference.

There is a $22 sample size. A little more per ml but maybe a little easier on the budget.

Have you heard of Hado Labo Skin Plumping Gel? I learned about it from dermatologist Dr. Dray (Youtube). It's been very effective for me during the winter months.

https://www.amazon.com/Hada-Labo-Tokyo-Plumping-Cream/dp/B00I4BUBN8

I have mild rosacea & have developed ocular rosacea (who knew this was a thing),, & derm recommended cera vu products. I have used BeautyCounter which two of my nieces sell, but honestly think I am going to stay with Oil of Olay which seems to work well for me. Not as $$ as beauty counter which I do like however because it is a "green" product. Love their lipsticks for sure. I think my skin looks ok for age 76. Good luck Sue with finding what works for you!

I just returned from Costco. They have a different Belif set in-store than online.

It was $39.97 for a 2.5 oz tube of Aqua Bomb with a 3.3 oz tube of Aqua Bomb Jelly Cleanser. I like that it comes in a tube at Costco, rather than a jar.

bbstx,

Rosacea here. Ugh. In fact, I just returned from a long drive to and from to the dermo for round two of v-beam to help calm it down. I'm only 5 months late for my 2nd treatment due to the pandemic :( I have the vascular variant, not the acne type.

I've wanted to try Belif very much and I'm glad it was suggested here since Dr. Dray likes the aqua bomb very much. I followed the link above and read the nice ingredients. However, my dermo is not such a fan of it for rosacea folks because it is full of botanicals. In normal skin, the botanicals can be lovely. In rosacea, it could be a disaster. Dermo feels (at least for me), it's not worth the risk when there is cetaphil hydrating lotion which is hyralonic acid (sp). I do like it and use it under whatever moisturizer I'm using that day or night. If not for the red road map on my face from rosacea, this lotion makes my skin look and feel nice.

My dermo says cerave pm during the day is best for us, followed by either Purito or Supergoop sunscreen. Her favorite is Elta MD sunscreen, but it makes my eyes burn and I won't use it anymore. I'm also using Bioderma Sensibio AR at night. I happen to like the Cetaphil Redness night cream very much (prob my fav). I use that one day and or night. Dermo likes Cerva PM better, but I suspect she might be a little bit in bed with Cerave because I walked by an open floor to ceiling cabinet today stocked with 1000s of Cerave sample. I splurge and feel like I'm eating a cookie I shouldn't and use Eurcerin Q-10 moisturizer after I saw it mentioned here on GW (maybe you mentioned it?). I like it a lot and have had not ill effects from using it. I think it's a very nice non-irritating moisturizer.

I'd say the most exciting thing I get to use that doesn't make my eyes or skin burn or cause the rosacea to worsen is Skin Ceuticals CE Ferulic drops. The green drops are nice too and I use those at night when I remember, which is not often.

PS I have the dreaded ocular rosacea too, so I'm having ton o fun over here!

I suspect many derms like cetaphil and cerave because they are mild and pretty much hypoallergenic. I used to use cetaphil cleanser but my skin likes the creamier moisture formula of cerave cleanser. I try to not use products with fragrance on my face. I would think that might irritate someone with rosacea. Hmmm, I don't have any cerave products that come in a jar.

Mdln, I hope you are using another sunscreen with your moisturizer because SPF is not nearly enough, especially for your face. Sea Sea, I know someone who also loves the Beauty Counter lipsticks but I have not tried any of their products. A retinal product will help with fine lines but they can be drying too, so you might have to beef up on the moisture. Make sure you are getting H. acid as I think that is the one that plumps up skin. I may look for the Belif eye cream on-line. We don't belong to Costco and I am not going out in stores yet (other than groceries/drugstore).

I'm not suggesting what I use to anyone, only that it works for me, and people never believe my age. I have never worn foundation, just use organic coconut oil. Years ago I switched I from organic olive oil, and generally don't use every day unless it's very dry/cold in winter. I used to deal with rosacea but not so much after I stopped using other products.

Tina, here is what I bought for DH. I think I got this at Target but probably Wal-Mart or other places have it too. There is a larger jar also. He will put it into a smaller container for travel. I tried it on the back of my hand. It felt somewhat greasy at first but absorbed in right away.

Outside - gotcha! I believe that is body cream. I only use the face products.

I agree with Indigo Rose about coconut oil. I used to it for many years and the rosacea was better then than it is now. I developed an issue with coconut oil burning my eyes, thus had to stop using it on my face, still use it elsewhere. It's a lovely moisturizer and I think it really does a nice job of conditioning the skin by way of nourishing it in ways over the counter products can't really do.

But Sueb20, I'm mid-50s and I find the products I mentioned above do a good job of moisturizing my skin. I live in a very dry climate and really struggled finding something I could co-exist with and make my face skin look alright. I don't even use eye cream anymore. I found they didn't help my cause and the eye burning was tiresome. I use the above mentioned products around the eyes with no issues, AND, the lines around my eyes are improved too since I gave up the eye cream. I was very devoted to eye cream, so big surprise.

ETA, I used to use luxury skin care for years and years, then switched to coconut oil and shea butters after enough time living in this super dry climate. I find the rosacea approved products to be just as good. I was not expecting that to be the case. I find the Bioderma Sensibio AR to be just a good basic non-irritating moisturizer for night (greasy) that doesn't do anything special other than seal in moisture, but the others do have some tricks in their bottles that I wasn't expecting.

Thank you everyone. I love these discussions because I think others end up learning something too. I decided to try Cerave because I‘ve always heard good things and gee, it’s pretty cheap compared to a lot of other options.

I have a ridiculous number of samples from Sephora that I save for travel and don’t really pay a lot of attention to in terms of how they work, and I should.

I also ordered the Belif eye aqua bomb!

I almost ordered the Eucerin because well, I‘ve seen your photo, atk! But decided on Cerave for the ceramides. Maybe they’re magical.

If I'm not mistaken, Oil of Olay wrinkle products have been the #1 OTC products for a long time. My SIL swears by it.

I rarely put any creams or moisturizers on my face in the summer because I spend so much time going in and out and sweating. It's time to think about a new wrinkle cream, not that any of them have really worked. ;)

Lizzie_grow, are the products your derm recommended helping with your ocular rosacea? I ask because last year my teenage son was diagnosed with blepharitis. For years, he has had bloodshot eyes, but does not have allergies. His pediatrician finally suggested taking him to an opthamologist, who diagnosed him with blepharitis, which is actually a dermatological issue. His first suggestion was to clean his eyelids daily with baby shampoo but he said if that didn’t help, he suggested something called Cliradex. It is expensive, but the baby shampoo wasn't helping so I bought it this summer. My son finally has found something that works!. It treats a lot of eye conditions including ocular rosacea. Here is the website about it: https://cliradex.com

One bottle goes a long way (he uses the foam). I usually get it from Amazon Prime where it normally sells for $29.99 but the price fluctuates frequently - I’ve bought it for $19.99 but last week it was down to $14.99. It’s back to $29.99 now though. Amazon Prime Cliradex

Sueb, hope you don’t mind that I went off on a tangent, but just thought I’d mention the product to Lizzie since it has really helped my son’s condition. Since it also treats ocular rosacea, perhaps she could ask her dermatologist about it if the Ceravu was not helping.

Google Hot n flashy youtuber on five years of retin A , which I’ve always heard is the gold standard for help with wrinkles. Only by prescription, and in different strengths. After the retin A, I use a moisturizer with sunscreen in the morning , Sunscreen is crucial with retin A. My sorta foundation is a 30% bb cream. At night, whatever feels best, usually thick and creamy from a jar. May be Cerave.

I too use coconut oil as a moisturizer. Almond oil Too, sometimes.

What brands of coconut oil are recommended?

I always enjoy these threads because my skin is very dry in the winter.

I have to say, I had to quit using some of the cheaper brands of eye cream, Neutrogena was one, because I started getting milia. Not bad but one of two small ones. Come to find out, parabens can cause them. I think almost every product has parabens, but some likely have a higher concentration in the ingredients, they don’t really say. So now I am more careful to avoid anything with parabens near the top of the ingredients list.

It’s too bad more companies don’t offer samples more often. I do like getting them and trying something for a week before investing big bucks. The Dermstore website is pretty good about sending them, and I can usually get them from my plastic surgeons office if it is a product they carry.

Joaniepoanie,

It's not so much the brand of coconut oil as it is that it should be organic virgin coconut oil. Trader Joe's has one that meets the bill, but any health food store will have jars that contain organic virgin coconut oil. Some grocery stores will as well. A little goes a long way. If you don't care for it on your skin, and there are plenty of people who don't, you can use it for cooking.

I have used coconut oil on my skin, but wasn't thrilled with it. I can't remember why! I may try it again this winter on my heels and elbows. I do like it as a deep conditioning hair treatment and used it a few weeks ago on my hair. You must shampoo really good afterwards, probably at least twice. But it makes your hair feel oh-so-good!!

As SEA SEA noted, any organic virgin coconut oil. A small container will be way more than enough because only a little bit is needed. I melt a small amount by rubbing it a few seconds in my hand, then apply to my face, neck and hands (after first patting my skin with water). I don't apply it right up to my eyes, and afterwards at times lightly pat my skin with a little piece of paper towel to blot up any excess. Nutsaboutplants - I forgot that for quite some time I used Organic almond oil I ordered directly from France but I don't recall why I switched to coconut oil afterwards - maybe the price. The olive oil I used first, and only for a short while before switching to Almond oil.

My problem with coconut oil is the scent - I love food with coconut in it, but I don't want to smell like one!

@nutsaboutplants, interesting you mention almond oil. DH and I were seated next to a lovely couple on a cruise last year. The man had owned a cosmetics manufacturing company at one time that he eventually sold to one of the bigger, better known cosmetic companies. He said that there was no better moisturizer than almond oil. He was understandably miffed that the company he sold to quit using almond oil in his products and went to a cheaper substitute.

Indigo, in winter, I find almond oil to be not as moisturizing as coconut oil. But during warmer months, almond oil is ok.

Tina, yes, coconut oil is wonderful as a pre-shampoo treatment. I’m Indian American (but has lived in the US for twice as long as I did in India. In Southern India, coconut oil is used as a regular treatment before shampooing.

Bbstx, I know, right?! Ironically, just a small bottle of good almond oil which will last a looong time is far cheaper than even the inexpensive skin cosmetics.

terriks, I’ve found some brands that don’t have the nice aroma of coconut oil. Can’t remember which ones, but LouAna is one that has no scent. (Which I found disappointing personally, but you may want to try it. However, it’s not organic, as far as I know. I can’t vouch for the quality of LouAna either.)

joanie, I agree with SeanSea. You may want to check Whole Foods or health food stores for organic, virgin coconut oil. Any brand will do.

I want to qualify all my comments with this obvious caveat: hair, skin products work very differently for people. My skin doesn’t get dry, but my hair is dry, thick and coarse. So my skin is easier to deal with than my hair. YMMV.

Thank you for the info on coconut oil.

Outsideplaying—very interesting about parabens and milia. I’ve had a few for several years now. One miraculous disappeared this summer. I will check all my current moisturizers for parabens.

Terri, i just checked my jar. Mine is the Trader Joe's and it barely has a scent and what you smell is not a "coconutty" scent at all.

I learned about CeraVe eye cream here several years ago and used until recently. Then tried EltaMD eye cream. Now I'm using SkinCeuticals A.G.E. Eye Complex For Dark Circles (don't have) since it's for lines also.

I recently switched Dermatologist after DD1 used a new one for awhile. She has the SkinCeuticals D.O.S.E. machine, and the Dr made mine yesterday. She said I only needed one in the A.M.

I had ordered my other SkinCeuticals products from Dermstore during a sale. I love the Simple Clean face wash (smells wonder, and only takes a teensy amount). I also use the Phloretin CF with Ferulic Acid in the morning and the Sheer Physical UV Defense SPF50 (goes on very light). Resveratrol B E at night. I had bought the CE Feurlic, but the Derm told me I didn't necessarily need. Said to use in the morning since I already purchased.

I use ReClaim Botanical moisturizers (day and night) and have since that line came out. The neck cream is amazing. I started using Principal Secret products easily 25yrs ago and moved up to new lines when created. ReClaim is their third product line.

I wish I had taken better care of my hands. Three kids, yard work, cleaning, etc without much lotion has taken a toll.

Allison, you may want to look into skin peels for your hands. I do the TCA peels from Platinum Skin Care on my hands, arms and legs; they've undergone significant improvement. I also use Retin A, 1% on the backs of my hands.

whatsayyou - I've been interested in doing a peel on my hands for some time now. What is the exact peel that you use? And where on your arms and legs do you use them? Does it help the saggy knee situation?

Terriks, I began using their peels for improved skin texture and dark spots which have lightened significantly (I can't speak to saggy knees). I've worked my way up to TCA 30%, two layers. Platinum has many product videos which I highly recommend viewing before purchasing.

I remember others recommending the TCA peels here in the past — might have been you, whatsayyou. One of my winter goals is to treat my skin better on my own, since I don’t see a professional facial on the horizon any time soon. So I ordered the starter-level peel. Looking forward to trying it!

I remember looking at the Platinum Skin Care site in the past and getting confused with all of the options!

Sueb - did you order a TCA peel?

Terriks, yes.

Whatsayyou, I've actually had BBL and HALO (same day) on my hands 3x in a short time frame. It helped some, and won't see full results for a few months. They look great afterwards from the light swelling. LOL

I would not want to do a peel at home. I had a SkinMedica peel at the dermatologist's office and had a horrible allergic reaction.

Martinca, how long does your tube of Retin A last? I jsut got an RX (0.025%) from the derm. Of course insurance won't cover. Target/CVS was able to apply a coupon, so the price is $52 and change. Just curious as to how long that might last since she only gave me 3 refills.

This past summer I got a sample bottle of Clinique Dramatically Different™ Moisturizing Lotion as part of a gift with purchase. This is the yellow moisturizing lotion that has been around forever. I hadn't used it in years, but I really like it. It is very moisturizing.

OutsidePlaying, I'm butting in here late, but regarding a paraben-free eye cream.... I've been using this one for a month or so and I really like it.

I've been trying a few of the Indeed products lately... I'm always looking for fragrance-free, not test on animals (non-negotiable for me) products, and it's a bonus when they're not crazy expensive.

https://indeedlabs.com/shop/eysilix-ii/

I got a pump container of the Retin A 0.06 microspheres at Walgreen last year. The manufacturer had a discount card that made the price $60. I still am using it and I use 3 pumps at least 3 nights a week.

I was wanting to bump up to 0.1 this year. Walgreen was giving me a run around, they couldn't get that strength in the Retin A brand, they wanted to sub a tube of generic. The Derm has a compounding pharmacy that will make a tub of it for roughly $50. I don't like the idea of sticking my fingers in a tub so not sure what I will do when mine runs out.

RNMom, can you find something small to scoop it out of the tub? For my CeraVe and Cetaphil creams that are not in a pump (in a wide mouth tub), I bought a wooden spatula that they use to spread on hot wax at the salon (got it at Sally Beauty Supply) and use that to scoop out the cream because i don't like getting it under my fingernail. I replace it every so often, but i am looking for something plastic to replace it so I can jsut wash it instead.