remodel/reno of late 90's wood siding home to farmhouse-which windows?
Greetings, all.
We are in the process of finalizing the finishings on our home reno/remodel.
Some details, before getting to my actual question...
Back story. This home was built in 1997, on 8 acres, some wooded, mostly pasture
Phase 1:
-New roof/gutters - gray tones OR light brown tones Architectural shingles (Standing seam is unfortunately NOT in our budget), white gutters (IF windows are white), black gutters (IF windows are black)
-New siding - Hardie Plank and Board and Batten - Deciding on which white to use
-New porch - replace wood (Perhaps a composite, depending on what they find when they tear off the current roof and siding/if budget allows), New, more substantial posts - Will be stained (NOT WHITE)
-New WINDOWS-
SO, the actual point of this post -
We know the black windows are all the rage in the "Modern Farmhouse" movement, but will they stand the test of time. This property has been in my family 50+ years, and I want to make sure the home will now reflect the land's history of an actual farm. We have looked at Houzz and Pinterest A LOT, and like the look of both...
Thoughts from you all on white vs black windows? OR are we overthinking it? (Which is very well likely)
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- 4 years ago
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PRO4 years ago
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoI think black windows would look great on that house once the siding is white, but I would use white gutters regardless of the window color. Gutters aren't really something you want to draw attention to. I'm not sure about it with the stained porch, though. I would do either black windows with a white porch OR white windows with a stained porch. They are a different style in my mind.
I wouldn't be worried about it going out of style. It's a pretty classic look.
PRO4 years agolast modified: 4 years ago
PRO4 years agoBlack or white, but reduce the number of panes per window as an update. See lower image.
4 years agoI prefer four over four or four over one myself. I think white is more likely what original farms had, and I'm tiring of all the black ones with a white house. Here's a favorite porch railing of mine that breaks out of tradition a bit.
Exteriors · More Info- 4 years ago
UPDATE~~
We went with 2/2 white windows, and board & batten under the porch. There is still some painting to be done under the porch, but they are waiting until the new door & jamb/frame are in.
Porch posts are 6x6 cedar - we had our minds set on a "Special Walnut" stain for door and posts, when we thought posts would be yellow pine, but with the cedar posts, we are re thinking that, as we don't want to fight against the natural beauty of the cedar...
Paint color is SW White Duck. It is a creamy white with LRV of 74, which works well with our sun exposure (we didn't want to blind ourselves with a stark/bright white!)
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Here is how far we have gotten! The new door, stained with Special Walnut, 6x6 cedar posts clear seal. Fiberon decking/porch in Earl Gray.
Beginning the addition part of the remodel next month (that is why the old chimney and side porch are still attached.
- 2 years ago
some in progress photos!
Will be posting a request for ideas for the new living room layout soon!
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