@Alice, I too see some yellow in Chantilly Lace in some situations/lighting. @Lori A Sawaya, do you happen to know the spectral data for stock white Cabinet Coat? I have read it described as bluish, or grayish. I'm looking for a white that doesn't look yellow in my laundry room, which has no natural light (or maybe a tiny bit contributing from distant bedroom west window during the day), and is lit with 2 high-CRI Feit LED bulbs. Even with the (relatively?) "high" CRI of the LEDs, colors look vastly different than in rooms with windows -- with yellow greatly intensified. I have found several of the BM colors in this thread, like Super White and White, look pretty much "just white" in my laundry room. I also really like BM White Diamond, which is a little darker (grayer) than Super White. I also have to complain a little bit -- even different BM chips of the SAME color do not match. Here I am agonizing over the differences between colors, when paint coloring technology can't even match its own chips, or different samples of the "same" color closely enough for my eye to see them as the "same" color.

The CIE sets the standards for measuring color. They recommend several ways to measure the wavelengths of light reflected off a color to define a color. There are several standards that are used to measure color, but the LCH values are the easiest way to describe color in a way that is easily visualized. LRV is the Y measurement when using the CIE XYZ standard that measured Pure White will have an CIE LCH value of 100 / 0 / NA under 6504k light L stands for Light - it is directly related to LRV. So the closer to 100 a color is the lighter that color is. C stands for Chroma - the closer to zero the closer to true black, gray or white a color is H stand for Hue. True black, white and gray have no hue as they are the drop dead center of the color spectrum having equal amounts of all color wavelengths. Snowfall is technically lighter than Chantilly Lace, (LRV of 91.6 vs LRV of 91.4 per Benjamin Moore measurements), (Super White has an LRV of 89.5 and Simply White has an LRV of 92.6 per BM) but it also has a higher chroma than Chantilly Lace (4.168 vs 2.538 per easyRGB website) That makes it less white than Chantilly Lace. (Super White has a Chroma of 1.224 and Simply white has a chroma of 4.657 per easyRGB) This is why Benjamin Moore states that their two whitest whites are Chantilly Lace and Super White. Why would Simply White seem like a brighter white It has a higher LRV than any of the other whites and it is more yellow than the other whites. Look at how we see yellow compared to blue or green or gray. So adding just a bit of yellow vs adding a bit of orange or green to the mix may appear cleaner/brighter. Try to remember that we can measure the light waves reflected off of a color to define that color, but the human brain is a highly complex organ (processes 11 million bits of information per second) and we have just begun to scratch the surface of understanding how humans actually perceive color. We don't even know if two people 'see' the same color when we see a red fire engine. We both call the color we see in our brain Red because we have been taught that Red is the name of the color when our eyes receive a specific combination of light waves that we have defined as Red. We do know that women can identify smaller differences in color than men can see. We know that being depressed lowers your ability to see color. We know that we learn color and that Children who are exposed to more color are better at discerning shades of color. Probably the most fascinating thing that I have learned about color is that when pregnant rats were isolated in single color atmospheres that the babies were behaviorally different based on the color the mother was exposed to throughout their lives regardless of what color atmosphere they were placed in. My favorite white is no longer being made, but is color matched well by Benjamin Moore. It is whiter and cleaner than any of the BM whites (Base white with a good dollop of Titanium White added and a small amount of Yellow Oxide added) Devine Icing - CIE-L*Ch(ab) = 96.569 5.785 95.373° Simply White - CIE-L*Ch(ab) = 95.648 4.657 106.615° Chantilly Lace - CIE-L*Ch(ab) = 95.164 2.538 114.465°

I am adding to an old thread here but I have a similar dilemma... I am painting my new bedroom walls silver chain /harbor gray.. I was going to use simply white on ceiling and trim but I questioned the lack of brightness in simply white on my ceiling .. I have northern and eastern light and some southern but it doesn’t make it in due to a farmers porch. I was advised due to this I might want to try Chantilly lace on the ceiling and that simply white trim could work but it’s doesn’t seem so ? Maybe the gray is causing my dilemma .. i am used to working with two colors not three... I also have vaulted ceilings and a tray... on top of it I need to come up with a complimentary color for master bath.. or stay the with the same ?Any help would be MUCH appreciated!

No regrets at all. I think it looks gorgeous, especially since I have white faux dupioni silk drapes in the living room and bedroom and real linen drapes in the family room. (All have blackout lining.) The walls and ceiling are matte, the doors, kitchen cabinets, and trim are semi-gloss and there is glossy too (where I can't think of right now) The different textures are fabulous, especially in the living room where the drapes play off the matte shade. I feel very fortunate because it all works so perfectly together. I have been reading and enjoying various home decor blogs, websites and more for many years and it paid off for me when I was able to make choices quickly and find they were excellent due to a combination of natural talent and a lot of listening to and learning from others.