It almost seems like a runaway win for #2, huh? I originally really liked #2, but upon further searching, came across the other plan. So I wanted some outside opinions, thus my OP. lindybarts, you're probably right about that echo-effect, although I have a feeling that the Devon Park also has an overlook of sorts there as well. And, yes, two of the boys (arriving in April!) are twins! So they'll be sharing a room until they decide otherwise, at which point we'll convert the bonus to a third bedroom. You all had a good point about the kitchen / dining / laundy relationship. I hadn't even considered that until you all brought it up. Although I did notice the garage entry into the kitchen and wasn't real thrilled about that either. anvil, interesting and well thought out opinion on the 'serving bar' design. I'll have to give that some thought. And you are certainly right about polling for opinions like I'm doing here, but I am only trying to pick your brains and get ideas that I haven't thought of (like the kitchen / dining / laundry thing). I am an information junky, so I'll take all I can get. Also, I don't know if there is a way to track 'post views' on this forum. But there are no doubt many (some?) that viewed and didn't post. Those are the "I don't knows" A couple of other considerations; I now notice from looking at the rear elevations (not shown here) that #1 has a '2-story' family room with windows all the way up in the back. #2 has a 'vaulted' family room, but only 1 level of windows on the back. Our lot is very wooded, we're in zone 7 (I believe). Any opinions about the difference here? Also, I originally said that the plans are similar in sq. ft., but in reality, they are about 400 (finished - assuming the bonus room will be finished in the Devon Park plan) sq. ft. different, with plan #2 (Devon Park) being larger. I am shooting for a building cost of around $100/foot (may even owner build) not including the lot. By looking at these plans, is it valid to say that the Devon Park would cost about $40K more to build? I think not, mainly due to the more complex framing and roofing structure of the Prescott Ridge plan (see the images below). Is my thinking correct here? Prescott Ridge Devon Park To me, the Prescott looks more expensive to frame than the Devon. Thanks to all, please keep the ideas coming.

Thank you both for your comments! eaglemom100, there is enough room for the toilet if we move the door. The code is 30" and there would be that much space between the wall and the door molding. The toilet I will be using, a Toto, is 18" wide. There would be a window right next to it, and the door would be closed when anyone was using the toilet. I am thinking, though, that it might be strange to have a toilet behind the door. clarosietoo, I agree that Plan 2 gives more space for a vanity. weedyacres, storage is a real problem throughout our house. Our master bedroom (which does not have a master bath, by the way) is quite large, with a sunroom off of it, but it has only one standard closet, about 3' wide. There would not be privacy for the toilet, because when the door was closed, as it would be when anyone was using it, it would be open to the room.

Kolbe wins! A couple different window experts (the ones who told me to buy Marvin windows, no less) said Kolbe door, so that's that. Thanks, guys!

yes, thank you, we suggested a session, and have it scheduled in 2 weeks. however we are afraid just like the previous times we will be rushed through and brushed off :( I don't think you are understanding me. I'm talking about an actual WORKING design session I described above, not one where she brings in a design she has been working on. Here's some photos of what they look like. Quiz: Now, what do these all have in common besides my ugly face gracing the photos? Ok, it should be obvious but if it's not....... the commonality is there's ABUNDANT bumwad (tracing paper) drawings and overlays of a design IN PROGRESS. There's bumwad everywhere! That's what you need to do with this lady. If she comes in with another competed floor plan to "go over" with you instead of a coupla rolls of bumwad, an assortment of pens and pencils, a few scales, a calculator and maybe a plate of cookies as Mark suggests..... you're in trouble. When you're done with the session there should be bumwad drawings galore...on the table, in the trash can, on the floor, maybe tacked/taped to the wall and the bones of a design concept everyone is happy to go forward with. When I do them I put a little star on the ones with good ideas so I can find those later in the resulting debris pile. And 90 hours spent to date? All I can say is "Wow"!