breezygirl, thanks for your input - it really does look yellow green in this room, no matter what time of day. I don't think I'll be using it, too bad I stupidly bought an entire gallon already! I did pick up a bunch of samples of whites from BM and Behr (while I was at HD to pick up the sample tile) to study over the next week or so, and thankfully I have not done all the work of cabinet painting - I'm just out $45 for the gallon of White Dove, better to cut my losses now and repaint the ceiling when I do the cabinets rather than go to all that work and not be happy. The subway tile is a soft white but not as yellow-green as the White Dove, and looks GREAT with the James River Gray and the appliances etc. I'll be taking pics throughout the project to document, I'll either be really happy at the end or I'll have filled my kitchen with a lumpy mass of concrete! To me, this is great fun although there is often a point about halfway through when I just wonder why I'm doing it, don't think it will ever come out right... but when it ends up well in the end the feeling of accomplishment is worth it. It's actually the second time I have made a major mistake purchasing white paint. At least this time it was only 1 gallon. When I was painting and doing flooring in the whole house (had less than 14 days to finish everything and move in as we only had a short term apartment after selling our condo) I bought *4 gallons* of Super White for the ceilings for some silly reason - having chosen Mascarpone for the walls (I thought I had to do "plain" white on the ceilings. Partway through the first gallon I realized it looked terrible. I just hated the idea of wasting that much money on the paint, but could not stand the idea of finishing the job that I would hate. So I bought more Mascarpone and did ceilings the same color (which looks great) and tried to sell the Super White unopened cans on Craigslists to no avail. Ace wouldn't let me return them even for a store credit or restock fee :( I ended up donating it. I thought I learned my lesson but I was so sure that White Dove looked lovely in everyone else's photos and was such a universal favorite (and who could not like the name) that I would love it too. Lesson learned - test the color in your own space even if it's "just" white! On the other hand, they do not have test sizes for the whites in my paint store and a quart is $17 vs $45 for the gallon - so it's better just to buy the gallon.

Wow! Thanks for the photos. I'm going to the BM store today, and I was going to look at that fan deck. I have classic colors and color preview, but not the Colonial Williamsburg fan deck. Love the gray cabinets. Did you paint them? If so, what color? I have natural maple which I hate. I'd love to paint, but it is such a huge undertaking, and I also want to paint my kitchen walls, DR walls and ceiling and all wood trim downstairs. I have to get a painter for my living room because of the high ceilings. Also, I'm a senior, and much slower getting up and down that ladder than I used to be :)

:) It's not chemistry. Many think there's some kind of code to decipher in color formulas. There isn't, it's a waste of time. Colorimetry is much more useful. Colorimetry is the science of color measurements. And it's incredibly powerful because it's the science and technology used to quantify and describe physically how humans experience color. So all those numbers in the chart I posted are based on how those colors are actually perceived by human eyeballs. Has nothing to do with abstract, meaningless paint bases and colorants.

I have a post and beam renovation getting ready for paint... in my open concept kitchen/dining/living I have Chantilly Lace on the ceiling, walls and trim in different finishes. I am using Classic Gray down the hall and in the bedrooms. The ceiling throughout is tongue and groove with support beams running through. I need a slightly darker version of Classic Gray that can be used consistently on the ceiling beams, to provide contrast. It needs to be dark enough to contrast from the Classic Gray on the bedroom walls, but not so dark that it overwhelms the open concept area. The color tone of Classic Grey is perfect, but I think I need more depth. Advice?