Urgent gray help- Waterworks Ice Water/White Dove/White Princess/ PICS
22k22
6 years ago
I am trying to choose a light gray to paint our large great room with a lot of natural light from south-facing windows and glass doors. The kitchen at the end will have White Dove cabinets, Waterworks Ice Water tile up to the ceiling like the photo below, and White Princess quartzite.
My brain is telling me that I need a cooler gray, but my heart wants a slightly warm gray for a softer feel to the room without looking beige at all, though!
I originally thought BM Gray Owl, Shoreline, or Moonshine was the way to go, but I love the softness of the warmer Pale Oak, just thinking it won't go with the tones in the room. ???
Does anyone have a suggestion (any brand is fine) for a gray that is like the baby of one of these cooler grays and Pale Oak? I also don't want it to read green at all,... ;)
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super white quartzite irl--omg!!!!!!!!!
Comments (83)http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2499581/marble-quartzite-and-other-rocks-in-the-kitchen?n=156 That is the link you want. karin_mt is some kinf of geologist and not in the business. His original post was about looking for super white quartzite and not agreeing that it was even a quartzite, its more similar to marble. He explains the tests you need to do in the first post and I think he has like 6 or 7 threads going. I just tested out our sample of super white "quartzite"... We put red wine, ketch-up, red wine vinegar, lemon juice, and a slide of lemon. We left everything for about 5 minutes and wiped it off and saw very very very faint etching, you could only see it on one extreme angle. We left everything overnight and there were no stains, only etching. The worst etching was from the actual slice of lemon and you could see a faint out line. We also noticed that the grey parts didn't etch as much as the lighter areas, no clue why. We did the glass test and it easily scratched a glass bottle. I've been agonizing over this for a few days and would highly suggest getting a sample from the yard and doing your own experiment with what you would cook with. Only thing left for me to try is heat....See MoreGray Arabesques + Super White = ?
Comments (115)i think you can see from that photoshop that something dominatily white is the way to go, lets your chandy still be the eye candy in that room, and i still think a little sparkle fits your kitchen bee.....those hex might just fit the bill! i guess i was thinking of pips kitchen....her bs seems to have just a little sparkle to it, but if i remember correctly, she said its not that sparkly in person? you are on the right track, and like others have said, you have great taste. trust yourself!...See MoreFinished Kitchen~White, Marble, Soapstone
Comments (162)Just an FYI, this thread was the reveal for katieob's first GW ktichen, with a stainless barrel hood and soapstone. (Damn photobucket for the missing pics.) The recent pics posted are of her second kitchen, which is just as beautiful, but not as old. :)...See MoreBenjamin Moore Oxford White / White Heron - in rooms with less light?
Comments (77)The concept of warm and cool colors predates most of the scientific tools we have today to measure color. It originated from the concept of warmth vs cold. the Oxford English Dictionary describes 18th century usage to include: Cold - applied to tints or colouring which suggest a cold sunless day, or the colder effect of evening; esp. to blue and grey, and tints akin to these. Warm - suggestive of warmth, said especially of red or yellow ... to become 'warmer' or more ruddy: "On a bright morning of July, when the grey of the sky was just beginning to warm with the rising day". I always conceptualized the concept as warm-related to the heat of the sun or cool of the water. The scientific difference deals with the sensitivity of the S cone. I am not a neuro science expert, but it has something to do with thresholds of the S cone and how colors change as they are desaturated. Blue goes from blue to darker and darker blue, but we still perceive the color as blue and we name the colors as blue light blue, sky blue, navy blue. When we change the chroma Blue goes from bright blue to gray blue. You can't do the same with yellow. We only see yellow in very specific ranges of light and chroma. We call dark yellow gold or brown and as we desaturate yellow it can either move toward green or violet. At the lowest saturations there isn't any yellow or orange or red. Have you ever heard someone describe a gray as a dark yellow gray? Nope. Beige can be pink, yellow, gold or green and gray can be green gray, blue gray or violet gray. So when the hue is yellow and it is desaturated it becomes olive green or brown - moves toward red or toward green it never stays yellow. At some point it moves to either a green gray or violet gray and looses any association with yellow. Grays are innately cool. - related to water, not the sun. Do you ever picture the sun as gray? Do you ever picture water as yellow? Where is the break between cool and warm? At what level of chroma do we determine that a yellow is no longer warm, but has moved into the cool zone? That may actually depend on your physiology - some people see more colors than other and can discern subtle changes in color better than others. It may also depend on the levels of dopamine in your system - we see colors more vividly when dopamine levels are high than we do when dopamine levels are low. I don't know if their is a definitive answer to your question about Chantilly Lace. Is it above or below the S cone threshold? It seems that the color experts at Benjamin Moore agree with many other color experts and define it as a cool white so my guess is that it is beyond the threshold of chroma where we actually perceive the color as warm even if it is in a CIE LCH hue that is generally associated with the Munsell Yellow Green hue family. BTW - CIE LCH Is linear in nature, where Munsell is not. The Muncell hues curve when mapped against LCH hues. The curvature expands as chroma and luminance are reduced. How we see color and how we measure color are not perfectly correlated....See More22k22
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PROLori A. Sawaya
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoAny other suggestions for a tiny bit grayer than Light Pewter?
Two good ones came up.
Shoreline BM 1471
Whisper BM CSP-500Look at the column labeled "Chroma" in this chart. The lower the number, the grayer the color. So, you can see that Pale Oak has the most chroma, then Light Pewter had a little less chroma so it was a snidge more gray.
Shoreline and Whisper both have chroma values of 0.29 which tells us that they are more gray than Pale Oak or Light Pewter.
22k22 thanked Lori A. SawayaColleen
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6 years agoOk, here we go: My eyes are so shot I can't tell what I think of these.....
Front left to right:
Gray Owl, Light Pewter, Shoreline, Balboa Mist, and Intense White
Don't mind the lovely red paper covering the floors. ;)
Ceiling and trim will be White Dove.
What do you think?
22k22
6 years ago
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