Concrete block House w/ 1" studs furred out - romex vs wire molding
steveandpar
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Comments (98)I don't understand the last post to this thread? Thermasol offers a 5-year replacement warranty on all their controllers. Why would you pay to replace it? Maybe you had it more than 5 years? If so, then it's too bad it failed but how long do you expect it to last? I doubt you could expect a car to last reliably with no problems longer than 5 years, so why expect that of your steam shower. I have a PRO-395 that I installed 14 months ago. It just failed tonight. Not sure if it is the controller board or the heating element, but it stopped producing steam. Called tech support and they are shipping me a new replacement unit tomorrow and paying for the install, all at no cost. I am going to call them tomorrow to talk to them about the fact that it failed so soon. They are supposedly the best and charge a premium for their product. I am curious how they will explain that it failed so soon. Will update this post if they say anything interesting. Update: Spoke to them this morning and they are sending me a new unit, and pay for installation charge. One other thing. Someone in the tread above talked about making their shower with a 10 ft ceiling. Don't do that! That is just dumb, and will affect the experience of a good steam. If you ever want to make your steam shower bigger, do it in the length or width but never in the height. My house has 10 ft. ceilings, but my shower has a 7.5 ft up to an 8 ft. ceiling and that is plenty high enough. The 7.5 ft part is over the bench so the fact that it is lower there makes no difference because you are sitting down....See MoreOld house - heating nightmare
Comments (8)Hi, my take may be a bit different from what's already been offered, but my .02 cents. We live in an old home like your property. No insulation, same deal as yours, but I think 1" depth furring strips sounds generous for our house, from what I remember from a recent down-to-the-studs kitchen reno. We have a brick exterior. We also rent out another property we own. For a tenant, I'm not sure that insulating and using 1 heating system for both units will satisfy all tenants. Heat rises. I remember when I lived in an apt in a 3-story old house, like mine, the landlord would always call me looking to get a feel on how warm the house was. A 2nd floor tenant was complaining it was very cold. it was so hot in my 3rd floor apt that I had to keep the windows cracked open because it was so hot. This was during this country's oil crisis, so my landlord was horrified to hear what I was doing. I wasn't paying for the heat. But I digress a bit. As a landlord and property owner in the northeast winters, I would prolly opt to separate the utilites between the two units. Let each unit be responsible for their own utilities and control how high they want to run the heat. Some ppl may be okay with running the heat at 78 or higher, day and night. Others won't want to if they are footing the bill. It's doubtful heating expenses will reduce as time goes on, the cost will only go up. With one heating system covering both units, I'm assuming you will be controlling the heat. Do you want to hear constant complaints from tenants in the lower unit, during the time you are living there? What happens if and when you move out and the property becomes a true investment property with both units leased? With one system, one tenant will control the heat of the other unit? Eh, no. (We make each tenant responsible for their own utilities - the utilities are listed in their name). Again, just my .02 cents....See MoreOutlets in a basement
Comments (10)Thanks! Re: 1.5" is way to thin for any legal box. I saw them at HD, the normal ones are 2" deep. Re: There's nothing that says you can't mount the box to a piece of wood or to the concrete directly. However, I feel you are not installing your WALLMATE to the manufacturer's recommendsations. You should be using a 2x3 furing strip if you are going to be putting electrical wiring in. This will give plenty of room for a normal box. You are correct. I had planned on framing this 9 foot section in front of the XPS that is why I used the 1 X 3 strips. I could pop them out and use 2 X 3s. RE: The other problem you have here is that running NM cable just under the surface of the drywall isn't going to provide legal protection for it. You are supposed to put the cable in an channel routed in the back (the side AWAY from the drywall). I don't know why most listed conduits wouldn't do the job unless you have goofy local codes. Metal braided conduit sounds like flexible stuff. EMT or rigid would suffice as would AC cable. Wallmate shows the notch in front as I recall, actually ther is a vertical 1/2" plus space between XPS and drywall...if using 2X3 fur strips. You would need to notch horizontally...and the becomes troublesome. Also, I also assume you mean the non metallic (regular) type wiring would need to be in the back side of the XPS...I assume metal coated braided etc is allowed to sit between the XPS and drywall....? Re: There's nothing that says you can't run the wiring up and down like you describe. Yes it makes it longer meaning you use more wire and if it gets way long you can run into voltage drop problems, but I suspect in your case it's not an issue. It does not require multiple circuits (breakers). Ignorance here but a wire comes from the box and goes down to the outlet and you are suggesting it goes back up and over to the next? Is that pipe type stuff that attaches to outlet box better than the metal conduit?? Safer? Cheaper? Perhaps I should just frame these small areas as originall intended......See MoreContractor? Home Designer? DIY/Home Depot?
Comments (39)Thank you for the very many helpful comments so far. Since we've not gone down this road before, it's great to get an idea of other's experiences and what a reasonable starting point will be. I don't mind the couple of comments about our budget being insufficient: I am trying to determine what does or doesn't fit in that budget. So pushback is good. If too little fits in it, then maybe we need to table the project for a few months or year until we have some additional cash on the table. We have one quote, that is in line with the previous comment. The GC we talked to didn't seem phased by our budget (and we cited a smaller number back then, as we've saved more in the intervening months). However, when he drew up recommendations, the number *did* come in higher. The plumbing, electrical, and ceiling work were estimated at about 2500 each. The estimate for cabinets, counters, modifying the drywall, etc was about 21,500. So, $28,500 was the quote for all the essential stuff. This left me puzzling over the following problem: wait, save, and come back with more than $28,500 (the 10,000 mentioned would probably be ideal), or try to figure out if we could scale the concept back to bring that figure at least somewhat closer to budget. Our next step may be to play with the Ikea planner. Perhaps what I can do from there is check with one of the big boxes or else (this might be smarter) just get cabinet quotes from a vendor, and then pay one of the contractors who works our neighborhood and knows rowhouses to help us evaluate the cost of everything else. That way we'll know what we can aim at and how close we are. Thanks again, this is all very helpful....See Moresteveandpar
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