Andreajp, these are lovely photos and a beautiful look to aspire to. It's a good idea to choose from the roses at the cemetery - pretty much an opportunity to find guaranteed winners for your garden. The photos really excited me because my front garden is finally getting mature enough that Souv de la Malmaison and Mme Lombard are looking like one bush because ML is reaching out wide. I don't mind (yet), because I've long been an admirer of the thicket look. I tried to plant 6' on center (but sometimes not) which pretty much guarantees that teas will be overlapping some, so plan accordingly and be patient with the blank spaces for a few years. Like Jeri said, fill in with annuals. One word of advise if you use Purple Coneflowers (which I recommend). They are thugs root-wise so don't plant them under or even near the canopy of the rose. Since my roses are fairly disease resistant, I don't worry about air circulation, but being able to get to the roses for maintenance is important. Give yourself room to get to each rose from the front and the back. Make an alley behind the roses if you're planting against a fence. Then squeezing in to reach the sides, if they touch at maturity, isn't too bad unless you have a bad back and can't reach awkwardly. There are definite consequences to planting too close. And remember in Zone 9 they will get big and probably even huge. If those photos were taken in the spring flush, those bushes will be a mess by the end of the season. Can't wait to hear which ones you choose. Sherry Here is a link that might be useful: If only sweat were irrigation...

I was also going to guess 'Shailer's Provence'. While many different pass-along roses have been given the name 'Seven Sisters', the real thing is a large climbing Multiflora. :-) ~Christopher

Robert, if you can answer the below questions and requests, you will have much more luck getting the right answer (I would also recommend putting the info on the Antique Roses forum. This is the correct forum for a hybrid tea, but on the Antique Roses forum there seem to be more people who are good at identifying any rose, and happy to help): 1) Where, geographically, did your mother and her grandmother garden? 2) What is the earliest date which you believe your great grandmother grew this rose? (Tiffany, for example, was introduced in 1954. If your great grandmother grew your rose before then, it is not Tiffany). 3) Please tear apart a bloom and count the petals, and let us know how many there are, and whether they are or are not yellow at the base. 4) I presume this rose re-blooms? 5) Could not get at your pictures - Please post a picture of a cane with thorns. 6) Please post a picture of a hip, if you have any. 7) Please post a picture of the entire rose bush (largest one you have). 8) Please post a picture of a bloom which is fully open, but has not dropped its petals yet. Pink roses are the most difficult to identify (because there are more of them), but it is fun trying - Jackie

I just happened upon this thread and want to share my opinion on no. 1: it's not Henri Martin. HM is a moss rose and more upright. And I would say more purple, but that colour is hard to photograph. Beautiful roses, both of them! Buds of Henri Martin