Can I Whitewash a Concrete Paver Patio ?
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your comments regarding laying paver on old concrete patio
Comments (14)Since the existing patio is on a granular base (as opposed to solid concrete) I would absolutely, positively NOT consider any mortared work on top of it. The reason is that the earth is a flexible surface. Though it moves so slowly you can't see it, it is doing it nevertheless. If you were to mortar flagstone or thin brick on top of it, this work would effectively be only as thick as the mortar that glued it on ... 1/2" maybe (?) It wouldn't be thick enough to support itself as the earth underneath shifts. If you're going to mortar something on top, you need a 4" solid concrete, driveway-like base (3 1/2" actual) that will not flex at all. But you could go over it with regular thickness pavers on sand IF you insulate the two layers with an inch of sand. (This is predicated on knowing that the existing base is of SOLID compacted material. Since it's been there a good while, its present shape is a good indicator of how solid the base is.) I would go so far as to say that if the present patio was perfect condition -- smooth, of perfect grade, and all slab joints perfectly matched -- you could go over it without the sand insulation. But it's not likely that it's that perfect. If you go over it, one thing you'll need to pre-plan carefully is the finish grade. It looks like your grade might end up being too high. I don't know what all the holes at the foundation are for, but they're probably not wanting to be blocked. If you need a lower grade, sell all those slabs on craigslist (someone would probably love to have them ... they look like step treads, BTW) and build directly onto your already existing base....See MoreConcrete OVER old pavers for patio?
Comments (1)rip them out and then prep it correctly. the pavers may be pretty settled, but why take the chance that they shift in a couple years and ruin your new patio? it is easier to take them up now and do it right than it is to remove the whole thing and redo it right....See Moreconcrete patio? pavers? or slate?
Comments (11)Is this a project which you are designing yourself? If so, I would suggest that you hire a professional designer to help work through the questions you are presenting here. And to give a cohesive design theme to the finished product. (I still don't quite understand what you're asking. If it's just about what material to use, it's a question of cost & benefits. If you don't like the slate, you'll look at some of the other materials; plain concrete is not the only thing. I still don't understand: "...I was thinking a cement slab with gravel so that it doesn't look just like cement." ... the white gravel shown in the picture is the least attractive of what can be seen. Hope you don't use any of that in the scheme. The pictures you've provided are a lot of shots from all angles so it's hard for someone on this end to get a feel for the overall space. It is better when pictures are taken from one viewpoint and span the overall view continuously (slightly overlapping) from one end to the other so that all can be seen and the complete view "assembled" in the viewer's mind. Be careful not to get the wall or patio too close to the trees....See MorePatio steps: concrete pavers vs natural stone
Comments (6)I can't speak to permacon as they're not sold in my area, but that looks like a pretty standard wet cast step slab. At this point most of the paver manufacturers have ripped off one another's designs so much that structurally, most products are virtually similar. The big difference is in the finished look. For example, Techo-Bloc's Rocka step (similar to your Hemmingford) has less color variation than the equivalent from Cambridge-Armortec. For areas that see a good bit of traffic, we generally only use wet cast slab steps or sawn natural stone slabs (when we're not doing a full masonry set of steps). The really natural steps just have too much variation in height and depth to pass the official Revolutionary Gardens test of "can I navigate this safely after a bottle of wine?" For coming out of a house you will likely need something on the sides, but it's impossible to advise beyond that without knowing what you're looking at....See Morejpen9784
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