in photobucket.. use the HTML code.. paste it right here where you type.. on preview.. if you see it.. we will see it ... [NOT the IMG code] second plant.. if you could get a pic .. in focus.. of that one hanging leaf.. we might get somewhere.. if i saw those berries in summer.. i would think wild cherry.. prunus serotina.. but they should be long gone.. in nov ... the first looks so familiar.. for MI ... but i am blanking this morning ... honeysuckle.. WAG ... which is endemic in MI ... see link if you could mark the plants.. and get pic of actual leaves... or even dead ones from the ground.. it would probably be a lot easier than looking at sticks.. lol...a red berry isnt that great an ID variable by itself ... may the force be with you ... ken Here is a link that might be useful: hey honey ...

I do the same thing, Jim. I have been cutting all the seeds off so the plant will bloom longer, but plan to stop doing that soon, so there will be seeds. Each pod will have quite a lot of seeds. I have trouble getting them to germinate usually. Last year I was gone for a month, and came home to LOTS of seed pods on my yellow Datura (moonflower), so I cut them off and just threw them in a bucket that had holes in the bottom. NO DIRT. I thought I would discard them, but neglected to do so. This spring the 3/4 full bucket of seeds started to sprout! I just took the plants out and put them in dirt and more would sprout! There are still seeds in that bucket sprouting as I type. I guess when I don't try I get better results! LOL My white one doesn't have as many seeds, or blooms, as the yellow one, or the purple one. This year I may have a bucket for each color! Grin!

..okay..I'm reviving this thread, because one of my cleaning ladies did break the glued pendant, this time it has two big pieces that came off, and two tiny pieces..my DH will try to glue it again but I've no much hope. I was gracious as an angel and said "it was bound to happen one day" and all that jazz..but I'm pretty mad right now. And mad at myself for being mad..it's a really small thing in the overall picture, it's just that I'm fed up with the picture, and this broken light thing is really redundant right now. I'm perusing everything again as you can imagine..wil probably take days, with all the sites I know..no luck yet. I'm preparing myself for the possibility of buying two different pendants, once again, but of course I'd like to avoid it. Given time and energy that went into these. (just when I decided what to do with the too-short-mirrors..didn't mean I'd start on it now, I've zero energy. but at least the idea was there already. lol) anyway..if, if, by chance, you stumble upon same light/lampshade..I'd be immensely grateful if you let me know.. Thank you..

out of focus really doesnt help ... but it doesnt look like pine to me ... im thinking abies ... fir ... but im cant even feel secure on that with the blur ... where are they ... z5 is half the US ... as trees.. no conifer stops growing at some magical height ... its all about annual growth rate .. and how fast the get to height and go right past it.. most size estimates in conifers is at 10 years .. double the size at 20 .... are there power lines?? why 25'? and how long is the installation ... or are you talking one plant???? one thing for sure.. plant a diversity of plants ... if more than one ... ken