The Pantry, Fridge and Freezer during Isolation
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Comments (28)"I don't understand the french door thing. Why have to open two doors? It has an application in kitchens with small aisles, I guess, but I dunno - I'd rather have the aisle spaced correctly. The ones with the big trays across the bottom are the worst to me." LOL - side by side fridges are basically French Door fridges - it's just the freezer is one side and the fridge is another - get an old school fridge with the freezer on top or bottom with one door the entire width of the fridge and I don't care how big your kitchen is, you will be desiring side by side or french door for the half-width doors. Also, if you prefer a side by side, why would you have to open both doors on a french door fridge? Your already used to accessing the fridge through a narrow door anyway :o) The side by side fridge I have came with my house - otherwise I would never own one. You can't put in odd-ball sized stuff, and normal stuff doesn't even fit well. It has allot less drawer space than the Samsung freezer on the bottom I had in my town house, and my Samsung was the smaller 18 cubic foot and my side by side is 25.5! To me, a side by side is like a 1500 square foot two story house vs. a 1500 square foot ranch. Theoretically they are the same square footage, but in the two story you loose space to stairs and hallways - not nearly as much actual usual space. I too have an extra chest freezer, but as others stated I would have one anyway. I have a foodsaver and I'm not afraid to use it. I buy things in bulk, on sale, and freeze them routinely. I wish I could find a fridge with a single height freezer drawer for quick access to the stuff I use regularly and the rest dedicated to fridge space. That would be ideal. Indeed, if I ever remodel my kitchen I'm seriously considering putting a fridge only in where my side by side is and a single freezer drawer (if they make such a thing? Surely someone does) in my island. I'd gladly sacrifice a little cabinet space for some more fridge space. I guess if you don't cook at home often, or eat that many fresh fruits or vegetables it's less important, but I never seem to have enough fridge space....See MoreBest fridge/freezer combo for large family?
Comments (7)It seems difficult to really get a good feel for how we do things. In this temp home I have maybe 5' of actual counter space. That has a small microwave, blender (used a few times a day) and another spot where I usually have my electric skillet. The small bit of counter left is where I chop veggies. LOL Before we moved here I would do more things up ahead and freeze. I still do that with ground beef but nothing else really right now. What I see as our possible uses: 1. Freeze ahead: -gluten free/egg free baked goods for my youngest child -gluten free baked goods for the other four kids -make ahead treats/snacks for myself I do these some already but not in the quanities I would prefer. -browned ground beef -grilled chicken -raw meats I get on sale -casseroles prepped and ready for oven 2. Produce storage -We use a lot of lettuce. Most of the kids like salad and dh and I eat it quite a bit. -bell peppers - these I should really chop in advance but don't do that right now for lack of counter space (and forethought) Honestly though, if I chop them up, I usually just freeze them. -celery, carrots, zuchinni, asparagus and other odds and ends. I tend to make soups with tons of veggies. So one day my fridge might be filled to the brim and the next day 50% empty, but I have dh stop at the store on the way home that night. 3. Containers -I like to make broth and store in jars in the fridge. I might have 6-8 quart jars one day and then none the next. -I keep a few other jars of various items. We don't have a lot of condiments or sodas. Mainly drink water or prepare our drinks fresh. Except almond milk. That I purchase in cartons. So I FEEL like I would utilize quite a bit of fridge space. I would like to buy a half/whole cow. That would use up a lot of freezer space. I tend to his costco and other specialty stores about 1 hour away from here and stock up on things in the freezer. Special bacon, special allergy free deli turkey, special pepperoni are three things I get for sure. I might have 12 packages of the turkey which take up an entire shelf in the upright freezer. But then I use those up over a period of 4-6 months before I get more....See MoreKitchen layout and fridge/freezer decisions - thoughts?
Comments (13)I like your layout, and being someone who has her one and only sink in the island, have lots of experience with the setup. My setup flows similar to yours but on a much smaller scale; my open plan space is only 24' x 24' and functions as kitchen, living, and dining room. My DW and sink are across from the range. I never leave the DW open, much less load while opening the oven. I have a large, deep sink. Dirties are never hanging around too long in my house, and as you said, would be visible whether the sink is on the perimeter or the island. You may want to look at slabs befor you finalize your island size and layout. I wouldn't want a seam. My original marble slab was 9' x 4 1/2', but ended up with an 8x4 1/2' walnut island because of fabrication issues. Have you determined where your dishes and glassware will be stored? That was important to me in the final placement of my DW. Where will you stand when you prep? The trash is a bit far from the sink. Have you considered trash/recycle pullouts under the sink? I like the location of your MW and coffee. It's quite suitable for entertaining and out of the prep area. Mine is on that same isle and we have no problem filling the water. Will your pantry be pullouts/roll outs? I think you will have ample room for staples especially with your extra storage around the corner. I store a tremendous amount in my 15" pullouts. I have 4'8" between my island and the sofa and 4' between the side of the island and the table. Although it would be nice to have more space, we've not encountered any dangerous nor overcrowded situations I've got a 90 lb lab and a toddler that love chasing each other around the island and through all the traffic paths. Regarding your fridge question, I have a 36" full depth French door fridge and love it. I have not survived with only one fridge for a very long time though. I have a second side by side in my garage. I keep the most used items in the house and longer term storage and beverages in the garage. I always freeze leftovers in individual serving sizes and they stack nicely in the side by side freezer. I like your idea of the fridge drawers near the eating area. My sis had two stacked on the end of her island next to her breakfast nook and they were quite convenient for grabbing drinks. If you plan for your 36" bottom freezer and two fridge drawers, you could always add a fridge or freezer to your garage later. My only suggestions are to layout where you will be storing everything, only order drawers or pullouts for base cabs, and have a good idea what stone you want for the island before finalizing your island design. Also, a very large sink with two faucets would be benefial, especially with a large island. I highly recommend the Kohler Stages45 and 2 Kohler Karbons....See MoreWhirlpool "Pantry" fridge with infinity shelf WRF993FIFM
Comments (31)Appliances nowadays can last as long as they did in the past ... except that people now are loath to repair them largely due to service costs. The 1962 Whirlpool washer that started my family needed *many* repairs in the 15 years we had it, including the bearings replaced. Bearings bad again is what led to a new machine ... which was another Whirlpool that had considerably fewer repairs (no bearings) in its 18 years of use ... which led to another Whirlpool (also 18 years) which also had considerably fewer repairs than the 1962. Newer machines, design improvements, longer service life. My GE refrigerator being 13 years old and still running in my kitchen doesn't mean there haven't been repairs. The typical consumer would have thrown it out 7 years ago when the motherboard went bad and complained "arggghhh, it only lasted 6 years" ... but I am not a typical consumer, and I can DIY almost any repair (got the board for $125 from an eBay seller). Assuming someone else would have opted to have the first repair done (probably ~$300+), then perhaps it would have been tossed 3 years later when the ice dispenser chute solenoid malfunctioned because "that's two problems in 3 years, it's no good." I got the part from an online vendor for $24. Then two months later the ice maker water inlet valve went bad ($22). So yeah, it's 13 years and still running. And I haven't spent $1500+ for a new SxS stainless steel finish refrigerator like most other people would have done. My EnergyStar dishwasher is 14 years old. I don't know what are the current requirements on power consumption for EnergyStar qualification on refrigerators. I have clocked the GE with a Kill-a-Watt meter as pulling only 100 watts with the compressor running (throttled down to low speed). A compressor properly sized to the load will run close to 100% of the time, maintain a more consistent temperature, and pull lower wattage when running than one that's oversized and runs for shorter periods with wider temperature swings. This also applies to home air conditioning, and is the premise of two-speed systems. Story: My parents 15-ish years ago had a Lennox two-speed heat pump installed to replace a 1972 York. Electric bill dropped enough that the electric provider came to check if there's a problem, LOL. One of their neighbors decided to have his system replaced with the same after talking to dad, then got upset because the new system ran for much longer periods of time (at low speed). He had the installer rewire it to run only on high speed, so it would "cool down and shut off like my old one did" which completely negates the benefits of the two-speed system....See More- 6 years ago
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