Houzz. At It Again. And 'Eugene de Beauharnais'
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Comments (30)Wow -- I just want to first of all thank everyone for all the replies! Bustopher, I absolutely love the purple rose in the picture! I have heard all that I need to forget about EdB. I had originally become interested after reading about it on Paul Barden's page, because he rates it as a "5" for fragrance and has so much good to say about it. However, there are so many other roses of great perfume that I have dismissed EdB. Paul, thanks for the advice. I have read several posts on GW about HR's LVdB not being the right plant. I completely agree to this because it repeats -- (and apparently it does so consistently, according to their head grower). However, I bought a LVdB for David Austin Roses, figuring that since they are a reputable grower originating in Europe, that they must have a perfect mother plant. In HR's catalog, they list their LVdB as having a strong perfume of "Sweetpea and Lilac", so this coupled with the fact that it repeats caused me to want the rose. I figured I wanted three versions-- the DAR one, the HR one, and one from Rogue Valley Roses. (I love RVR!) Thank you for confirming the fact that Duchesse de Rohan repeats! This has completely "enabled" me! I have been wanting that rose for a long time, so today after speaking with Chris -(Heirloom's head grower), and hearing from you, I now know that I will definitely be adding that one to my collection soon. Another thing I like about DdR is that according to Paul Barden and Chris, it has a centifolia fragrance, which seems rare... especially in a repeater! Thanks again and I would love to hear if anyone has anything more to say!...See MoreCould this rose be Eugene de Beauharnais?
Comments (15)Jackie, now that I see the plant, I am even more willing to accept this as EdB. I am making an interesting experiment here, with the help of Kim Rupert. We removed EdB from our garden long ago, because when we quit spraying, it began to rust. Inexorably. It was the only rose I have ever seen whose leaves rusted even as they began to unfold. Kim's theory was that if EdB was budded onto real powerhouse rootstock, it might not rust. So, he budded it on Fortuniana, which is a happy monster here. The very first leaves rusted. I removed them, and subsequent leaves have not rusted -- so I am cautiously optimistic. And I theorize that if your plant is really an old one, and possibly budded to start with, it might have the rust-resistant that we hope Fort is imparting to mine. An interesting side-story. When we grew EdB before -- and sprayed regularly -- we also exhibited regularly. The best spray of EdB I ever saw was DQ'd at an ARS rose show, because the judges asked someone about it, and that person said that she didn't know the rose, but it didn't "look like a China" to her. To say that I was ticked off is putting it mildly....See More'Eugene de Beauharnais' Redux . . .
Comments (17)If the disease issues are caused by an insufficiently vigorous root system not providing the plant with the appropriate nutrients so it doesn't generate the foliage mass required to keep it properly nourished, yes, it can. Raising seedlings has taught me that. The weak, unhealthy seedlings always have spindly roots. Many of those have been able to grow well without nearly as severe (and sometimes almost entirely without) the disease issues. Not that I would want to use or release a plant that demanded budding to be decent. Yes, you do need to play with budding, but root pieces of your Fortuniana and remove all but the top one or two growth buds before you bud it. Any buds left below where you insert the scion, the bud you place in the stock, WILL eventually be a sucker. Simply budding the existing sucker will probably work, but it will open the door for a lot of suckering for you to deal with over the life of the plant....See More'Eugene de Beauharnais' ... or ...
Comments (18)I so have to have this rose . . . . In my case, his small stature is a plus. He may well have disease problems where I am, also, but I am dying to try it. Last time I checked, Burling didn't have him available, but I should ask again. Otherwise, if there's anyone in/around SF or Bay Area who might be able to give me a cutting at any point, I would be very grateful, and might have something to share as well. (Jeri, you are the worst -- or best -- rose enabler! EDB and Elisabeth's RC and Jesse Hildreth are all on my "must have someday" list. I have GMH, Portland from Glendora, Benny Lopez, and FBPT, all largely because of you!)...See MoreKes Z 7a E Tn
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