Pie crusts drama. Should have just drunk the vodka.
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Comments (33)Lard has a larger fat crystal than other fats, which is one reason it works so well in pastry. Butter gives great flavor but has a lot of water in it and it melts quickly. The combination of lard and butter in pastry is a great twosome. When I use coconut oil (frozen and grated on the large hole on my box grater), I can reduce the amount of fat by about 25 percent, especially when using pastry flour or milling soft wheat or low-gluten spelt into flour to use for pastry. Good pastry is a combination of tenderness and flakiness and each characteristic is developed differently. Pastry is all about reducing the gluten development in the flour, so choose flour (pastry flour or Southern All-Purpose flours like Martha White, White Lily, Gladiola, Red Band) that has a low protein/gluten content to begin with as a great way to reduce gluten-development up front. If you want more tender pastry while using all-purpose flour you can add a little more fat and add an acid ingredient. Divide the cold fat in two portions and mix one half in the flour until it's very finely mixed. This will coat the flour so it develops the gluten in short strands (hence short-crust pastry) when the liquid is mixed in and will give a tender crust. Quickly add the remaining fat and keep it in larger blobs. When the heat of the oven melts the blobs of fat the steam will raise those layers in the pastry we recognize as a flaky pastry. Vinegar in a recipe is another way to decrease the gluten-development. Adding an acid brings one more tenderizer into play. "Acids soften gluten, breaking apart gluten strands and keeping the pastry tender." When eggs are used in a pastry recipe it is best used for something like a meat pie. The protein from the egg will reinforce the structure of the pastry, making it strong enough to hold a hefty filling. When liquid vegetable oil is used to make pastry it is considered a "warm fat", which coats each particle of flour so completely than no gluten develops. Oil pastries are very tender and tend to be more mealy than flaky since you don't have steam raising those flaky layers. Oil pastry is generally easier to handle and is easy to roll between two sheets of waxed paper. It's neither right or wrong what type of pastry you make - it's just one of those cooking/baking choices we make - BUT - as a general rule of thumb don't take an oil pastry to the fair because it will tend to get judged down because they rarely come up to judging standards. If a sticky dough that is hard to roll-out is your problem, you have too much gluten developed - probably from adding too much liquid and/or using flour that has a high protein content. Northern all-purpose flours like King Arthur and Robin Hood really don't make good pastry because of the high amount of protein. Add as little water as possible!!! As soon as lumps of dough stick together during mixing, stop mixing and adding water. It takes very little extra water, as little as 1/2 teaspoon, to quickly toughen the dough. -Grainlady...See MoreVodka pie crust question
Comments (44)Sorbets. Which? SORBET AU CABERNET 1 1/2 c Sugar 1 c Chilled fresh lemon juice 1 1/4 c Cabernet Sauvignon 4 Garnish peeled & sliced thin -kiwi 1 c Water 2 lb Red seedless grapes (Makes about 1 quart.) Combine sugar, wine and water in saucepan and simmer 5 minutes, stirring until sugar is dissolved. Chill. Crush grapes* in processor, then squeeze through cheesecloth to obtain 2 1/2 cups juice. Add grape and lemon juices to syrup. Process in ice cream maker. Arrange kiwi fruit and scoops of sorbet on individual dessert plates. Best made within 24 hours of serving. *Can substitute green seedless. Blackberry Cabernet Sorbet Recipe Ingredients: 1 pound blackberries (fresh is best, frozen is OK) 1 cup cabernet sauvignon 1/2 cup sugar 1 teaspoon lemon juice Turn this recipe into a puzzle! [click] Directions: Puree the blackberries, then put the mixture through a sieve to remove the seeds. Combine the strained berry juice, wine, sugar and lemon juice in a saucepan, and cook over medium heat until the sugar is dissolved. Freeze according to the directions for your ice cream freezer, or place in a shallow pan in the freezer. If your freezer is too warm to get the sorbet to harden, substitute water for a portion of the wine in your next batch. This recipe from CDKitchen for Blackberry Cabernet Sorbet serves/makes 4...See MoreNancy's vodka crust question...
Comments (25)What struck me about the recipe is that it has a lot of fat in proportion to the flour. That makes it easy to roll out. The Cooks Illustrated bulletin boards have a lot of discussion about this recipe. (You don't need a subscription.) This idea was new to me: they tested and found that flakiness comes not from flattened fat but from uncoated flour and water. That's why the last bit of flour is added late. I have always cut in fat until there is no uncoated flour. Any plain flour-water paste seems undesirable. Maybe I'll try it with my regular recipe....See MorePie Crust - I just can't.
Comments (31)My metal rolling pin is longer and specially for fondant. There are goods and bads for metal. It is VERY slick. Some doughs won't stick to it, especially if it's chilled. It's terrible for things like shortbread, because even flour won't stick...until you get a bit of vacuum and the whole thing sticks. The answer to that is a "sock". It's like stretchy cheesecloth and holds the flour. A sock can be a good thing if you're having sticking issues no matter what kind of rolling pin you're using. Thin rolling pins, like 1" in diameter, are useful for things like when you have small dough balls you're rolling into individual rounds, and when you're doing weird decorative stuff, but I wouldn't like to roll out a standard 9" pie with one. The more surface, the easier it is to keep it from sticking, and the better grasp you have. For pies, I usually use a wood dowel style, about 2.75' in diameter. For cookies, I like my old fashioned 3" or more textured man made one with ball bearings, and I've been known to use it for pies as well, but it's really too much. It depends on the stiffness of the dough. Pie pastry is more tender. Heavy wood grain holds flour really well. The textured doesn't as much as the real old ones did. You can chill any rolling pin not just metal and it will help. I'm surprised Anna's husband didn't like the Stella crust because it's very flaky and crisp. That one does have to be made exactly as written, though. It's the method, not the ingredients that makes the difference. It's also too big for the pie rings. You can use the method with other recipes....See More- 6 years ago
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