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amylou321
4 years ago

Ever want to tell someone or a company something, but it seems trivial at the time, or unproductive, or you just do not wanna start a conflict? I do. 3 times today, in fact. Therefore, I shall revert back to elementary school, where a very kind nun told us that a good way to vent frustration without hurting any ones feelings or nagging about something small or dumb is to write a letter to that person, to get the anger out, and see if you feel better. Lets try it. I will start with my 3 letters. Feel free to write yours.


First, the trivial:


Dearest Amazon,Ebay,Google, Etc,


First let me start by thanking you for the wonderful array of products and services that would not likely have been available to me without you. I truly appreciate it. That being said, please allow me to offer some insight into my simple mind. Perhaps you would consider changing some of your methods.

Dearest internet shopping helper, when i type in something specific, like a COLOR for example, it is because i want that item in that color, okay? For example, when i type in "pink whatever," its because i want it in pink. Not turquoise, not red, not black, pink. Now, I understand that tragically, not everything comes in pink, or if it does, it may not be available on your amazing sites. However, if that is the case, just say that. And if there are products that come in that color, show them first. Do not mix in a bunch of stuff that that color is not available in, making me search through tons of listings for something that should have been on the first page, because you wanted me to see that it also comes in blue. I don't want it in blue. Or i would have searched "blue whatever,' in which case i would have been shown some blue whatevers, mixed in with a bunch of whatevers that only come in black and red. I understand that there are other colors out there, that is why i specified "pink."


Thank you for ignoring me. Carry on.


Next, the unproductive,


Dearest people crossing the parking lot in front of cars going into or out of the grocery store,

I am gonna need you to pretend like you give at least one flip about your safety and that of your children,mkay? While it is true that lawfully, you certainly have to right of way and it is technically the responsibility of those in said cars to avoid hitting someone,it might behoove you to realize that distracted driving, especially by young drivers, is an epidemic. It might help if you put your phone down long enough to look to make sure no cars are barreling toward you before you sashay in front of two of them, leaving your small children to follow behind. And you might want to pay attention to see that while you successfully made it across, your toddler is crouching down, in front of a car that should be moving, my car in fact, picking up an unknown object in said parking lot. Lucky for you, i give at least one flip about your safety and that of your children, and pay attention to make sure some entitled idiot that just walks out in front of moving cars (going both ways i might add) is not going to get a hard lesson in common sense.


You're welcome dummy.


Last, the one that might start stupid unnecessary conflict, therefore will be left unsent,


Dearest coworkers,


How are you? Doing well i hope. So, I just wanted to check in to make sure you know that when you decide to eat ALL of my ranch dressing, ALL of my mayo, and the entire jar of pickles i brought, putting the empty containers back in the fridge does not mean that you did not eat it all, you swines. Perhaps your parents could not bear to tell you some things, but luckily I do not have that issue. Take a deep breath darlings, this might hit you hard:


Santa and the tooth fairy are not real. That was the doing of your parents. Ill let you take that in before i hit you with the rest.


...


Are your ready? Okay, darlings, I must also tell you that the condiment/pickle/plate/cutlery fairy is not real either. So just as putting those empty containers back in the fridge does NOT undo the acts that emptied them, it also does NOT call upon some magical creature to come refill them. Someone has to buy them. Since it is none of you that do that I will challenge you to figure out who that is. I bring those things and keep them here so that they are available to me when i want them, as i would never take something that i did not buy. However, as you people seem to drink the stuff, that seems to be a pointless endeavor.


I want you to know that i do not mind if you use a little of my condiments, a plate or a plastic fork here or there perhaps, i bring the plates for ALL of us, but just HOW exactly did you people go through an ENTIRE giant bottle of ranch AND a giant jar of mayo in less than a week? How did 5 people go through 100 paper plates and 50 forks in a week? A WEEK? Are you giving them away? Taking them home? Washing your hands with it? What? And who ate my olives? And WHO opened my peanut butter and took a huge swipe out of it with their finger? In what barn were you raised where if you KNOW you didn't buy something, and it is on MY shelf that is dedicated to MY stuff (as you have, yours is empty i see) its okay to open it, eat it, and put it back like nothing happened? Should i just be grateful that you put it back? Oh, wait, do you put it back to remind me that "we" need mayo and ranch and pickles and olives? How kind. I remember when i got that very kind email AND text on my days off that "we" need some more of the wonderful bath and body works hand soap that i bring because the company supplied stuff smells like a dead rotting skunk. I was at least grateful that i was reminded to bring some for myself. Oh, that's funny, this bottle of hand soap was almost full when i went on my four days off, perhaps there is a leak in it that would account for the diminished contents.

And I know full well i had a FULL BOTTLE of ibuprofen here last month. Have you seen it? It had my name on it. There IS an Ibuprofen bottle with my name on it here, but this one only has 5 pills in it, so there must be some mistake, right?


I am writing this in response to some snide comments i hear about how "everyone knows" that i have forks and plates and my hand soap and other things locked in my own personal locker for my own use. I want you all to know that yes, it is true, and i also wish to hear your opinions on why that is a problem. Whats in yours? Is it something that i might want to use but don't wanna pay for? How dare you! Even if you put out some of whatever it is you bought for everyone to partake in,(as i do because i am not a jerk), how dare you put something you bought back so that you, the selfish brute who paid for it, might have some of it when you get here. You need sensitivity training. Sharing is Caring.


Swines.


Add yours below. I feel MARVELOUSLY better, and no one got their feelings hurt. Win Win, Thanks Sister Mary Katherine.

Comments (100)

  • rob333 (zone 7b)
    4 years ago

    I hear ya Dawn! They're screwing up traffic in downtown is what I'm talking about. This isn't on my home streets. That, they get right. It's bad enough traffic, so we don't need more to muck it up. It's right around the honky-tonks and people who are barhopping, so I bet, their judgement is a "little" off.

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  • amylou321
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Dearest DawninCal,

    Thank you for making me snort my diet root beer up my nose with your "go take a selfie or something" line. The carbonation shooting through my nasal cavity made me feel ALIVE! LOL!!!

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    Raye Smith, it sounds like you did have a life-threatening emergency. I don't understand why you waited five days to get help.

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  • Olychick
    4 years ago

    Lol!

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  • DawnInCal
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Gardengal, I used to work with a know it all. My co-workers and I started referring to him as Ike (I Know Everything). One day, our boss overheard us talking about Ike and said, "who is Ike?" We told him who we were talking about and he laughed so hard, I thought he was going to pass out. :-)

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  • DawnInCal
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    You know, I was thinking about this thread today while I was outside working to clear brush and thin trees. I find that to be a great time to think because it's mindless work.

    Anyway, the conclusion I came to is that this thread is a healthy and constructive way to express our frustrations at mostly minor annoyances and to then let that frustration go. I have laughed so hard at many of the letters that have been shared here and we all know that laughter is good for the soul.

    Besides that, I was thinking that all of us do annoying things and if we recognize ourselves in any of these scenarios, it could help us to become better people.

    Thank you, Amy, for this fun and productive exercise!

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  • OutsidePlaying
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    I too think it is so productive. We can take a good look at ourselves and make sure we aren’t the sinner in any situation. I like to think I am polite and a good citizen when out and about interacting with people, but you never know what perception others have. Anyone can have a bad day or get distracted and slip up. I know I must have in some way or another. Far from perfect.

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  • lucillle
    4 years ago

    No one here has belittled males. We have described overbearing,condescending, know-it-all behavior as something that we do not appreciate. It was not directed toward men only.

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  • DawnInCal
    4 years ago

    I'm not seeing any posts directed at males either unless one counts my post about Ike, the old guy who drives too slowly and the one about the husband who leaves dirty dishes in the sink. The majority of the posts were pretty generic or non gender specific as far as I can see.

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  • DawnInCal
    4 years ago

    Dear Line Cutter:

    Do you see that long line of people behind you? Yes, that one.

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    Sincerely,

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  • DawnInCal
    4 years ago

    Shoot, I forgot the other one...I guess it must not bug me very much! heheh!

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  • aok27502
    4 years ago

    Dear Line Cutter's older sibling,


    We all realize that you are very important, and that your destination is much more urgent than anything anyone else is doing. So when you sneak up in that right lane at the stoplight thinking you'll zoom ahead and squeeze in, well, good luck with that. You know as well as we do, that lane ends in a couple of hundred yards. It ends every day. And every day you zoom to the head of the line and elbow your way in.

    Because you are so important..


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    4 years ago

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  • bob_cville
    4 years ago

    >Dear Line Cutter: .....

    Ouch. Only because that was me today. Although I guess I didn't so much cut into line, I explained my sob story and asked whether any or the 12 or so people ahead of me would mind if I jumped to the head of the line.

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  • DawnInCal
    4 years ago

    Dear Bob:

    We will cut you some slack since you were polite and asked if you could move to the head of the line rather than pushing your way past those who were waiting and firmly planting yourself at the head of the line.

    We are also assuming that if the people in line had said no, you would have accepted their response and gone straight to the end of the line rather than being belligerent and refusing to move.

    Sincerely,

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  • Kathsgrdn
    4 years ago

    Dear other pain clinic patients in a small waiting room full of people,

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  • llitm
    4 years ago

    Dawn, "IKE"....too funny! There's always one.

    Line cutting. I believe the only time I've done it was after arriving at LAX en route to Tahiti sans DH's luggage. The airline representative strongly suggested the luggage would not catch up with us in time for our cruise and recommended we take a cab to a nearby Target to replenish the contents of his luggage.

    There was quite a long line at checkout and we were very short on time. We attempted to explain our situation to each customer and though they were clearly unhappy, we were given permission to go to the front of the line. It was awkward and we hated doing it but really had no choice other than rescheduling our connecting flight.

    So,

    Dear Airline Representative~~

    Thank you for the strong suggestion that there was a very real possibility our luggage would not catch up with us and to go shopping. I imagine it would not have been endorsed or encouraged by your supervisor but you used your best judgement and common sense anyway.

    XOXO

    Grateful passenger

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  • User
    4 years ago

    Woodrose, no, it wasn't life threatening and if I had to do it over again I would have stayed home. I had an overzealous physician that decided to send me to the ER, making a decision I would not have made.

    My point is that sometimes when you're feeling really awful it's hard to
    think straight, be realistic and chose to let an illness takes its
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  • OutsidePlaying
    4 years ago

    Dear Line-Cutter’s Cousin,


    in a cafeteria-style restaurant where you are in line to order food, please don’t send one of your kids or one of your able-bodied party to hold a table while you wait in line to order. Just wait like everyone else for a table to open up after you have ordered your food. I promise it will work out in proper order and you will get a table. It forces those of us who do wait to stand and wait for a table to open up while your sentry is still sitting at an empty table.


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  • blfenton
    4 years ago

    OH OH DawninCal's post way up thread made me wonder how many letters I could be the recipient of from a stranger.

    OutsidePlaying's letter could be sent to me. When my kids were young that is something I would have done in order to give them something to do and prevent a meltdown. Now, I wouldn't do it and I promise to not do it again.

    Sorry (she says sheepishly, head hanging)

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  • littlebug zone 5 Missouri
    4 years ago

    Dear senior citizen in the grocery store during the noon hour:


    Why in blue blazes are you in the grocery store anytime near the noon hour? Don't you know that's the busiest time in the store? That working people try to jam in multiple errands during that time (like pick up a loaf of bread, get their drycleaning, fill up the car with gas, etc.) and yet still find time to grab a sandwich and then get back to work on time? What were you doing at 8:54 a.m. this morning when most people are working and the grocery store was virtually empty? Calling all your senior-citizen-friends and arranging a chat-a-thon in the dairy aisle for straight-up-noon, making sure to gather the optimal number of shopping carts for full lane blockage? C'mon! Get a clue!


    Dear next-door neighbor with the pooping dog:


    Thanks for letting your dog outside to do her business. The fifteen minutes you leave her outside - with no supervision - is plenty of time for her to leave a steaming pile in my front yard, chase away the cardinals feeding under my sunflower feeder, stand in my yard and bark endlessly at me, a squirrel, a leaf, or an imaginary Tyrannosaurus Rex, and, if my DH has forgotten to close the garage door when he left, wander in there to see if there's any trash that needs spreading around.


    Perhaps, though, you are aware of the mischief your dog gets into because you never seem surprised at the dog piles that mysteriously appear right beside your driveway, near the driver's side door of your car. I guess you feel that's the price you pay for having a dog. And I'm happy too, imagining that sticky-poo on your shoes and hopefully inside your car.



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  • lucillle
    4 years ago

    Dear senior citizen in the grocery store during the noon hour:


    Why in blue blazes are you in the grocery store anytime near the noon hour? Don't you know that's the busiest time in the store? That working people try to jam in multiple errands during that time (like pick up a loaf of bread, get their drycleaning, fill up the car with gas, etc.) and yet still find time to grab a sandwich and then get back to work on time? What were you doing at 8:54 a.m. this morning when most people are working and the grocery store was virtually empty? Calling all your senior-citizen-friends and arranging a chat-a-thon in the dairy aisle for straight-up-noon, making sure to gather the optimal number of shopping carts for full lane blockage? C'mon! Get a clue!



    Once upon a time, a very elderly man became too frail to live on his own so he went to live with his son, daughter-in-law, and his four-year-old grandson.

    The old man’s hands were shaky, his eyesight was blurred, and he was very unsteady on his feet. The family ate together at the table but the elderly grandfather’s trembling hands and failing sight made eating difficult. Peas rolled off his spoon onto the floor. When he grasped the glass, milk spilled on the tablecloth.

    The son and daughter-in-law (who had busy lives and were often tired by dinner time) became more and more irritated with the mess. ‘We already have so much on our plate with our business and our family. We must do something about father as he’s just creating more work and hassle for us’ said the son. ‘I’ve had enough of his spilled milk, noisy eating, and food on the floor.’

    So the husband and wife set a small table in the corner. There, Grandfather ate alone while the rest of the family enjoyed dinner together. Since Grandfather had broken a dish or two, his food was now served in a wooden bowl. When the family glanced in Grandfather’s direction, sometimes he had a tear in his eye as he sat alone.

    Still, the only words the overworked and irritated couple had for him were sharp criticisms when he dropped a fork or spilled food.

    The four-year-old watched it all in silence.

    One evening before supper, the father noticed his son playing with wood scraps on the floor. He asked the child sweetly, ‘What are you making?’ Just as sweetly, the boy responded, ‘Oh, I am making a little bowl for you and Mama to eat your food in when I grow up.’ The four-year-old smiled and went back to work.

    The words struck the parents so that they were speechless. Then tears started to stream down their cheeks. Though no words were spoken between them they both had the realisation that they were teaching their son indifference and harshness instead of kindness and compassion.

    That evening the husband took Grandfather’s hand and gently led him back to the family table. For the remainder of his days he ate every meal with the family. And neither husband nor wife seemed to care any longer when a fork was dropped, milk spilled, or the tablecloth soiled.

    The next day they decided to simplify their lives a little, so they had the time to focus on family, on love and on what mattered most.

    Every one of us can probably relate to this story. There are times when we behave like the parents did and we choose convenience over compassion. There are times when we are harsh or impatient because we are ‘too busy’ to listen, to be kind, to be patient. Or times when it’s just too inconvenient to live our values so we take actions that seem easy in the moment but lead to disharmony or suffering in the future.

    The art of mindful living involves a conscious effort to live a life that’s true to us. A life in alignment with our values…and maybe the true test of how mindful a person is, is how they act when nobody is looking – or when the only one who is looking is our grandparents, the check-out lady, our partner, the janitor or our children.

    Are there ways that you have been overlooking what matters most in your life? If so what could you do today to change things?

    One final thought on this story – we don’t need to judge ourselves harshly when we find ourselves off course. It’s all part of being human. Mindful living is not a perfection project and this is not about always being flawless. We can be compassionate with ourselves when we make mistakes along the way and like the parents in this story, we can then renew our intention to live with more compassion, with awareness, authenticity and with our inner compass set to true north.

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  • blfenton
    4 years ago

    I'm 67 and I'll shop when I have the time between visiting my elderly mother, helping out my niece and the other myriad things that as a decrepit senior I have to do,

    When I see "seniors" or anyone who is less able than I am anywhere, whether it be the grocery store or on the sidewalk or the coffee shop I always think, someday that will be me and I hope to God that someone will be gracious enough to give me some space and a smile.

    I always wonder why those moms with toddlers can't do their shopping when their kids are down for the night. And that was sarcasm.

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  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    4 years ago

    Hmmmmm........didn't realize that seniors were restricted as to what times they should be visiting the grocery store or running errands!! And in fact, I find it rather demeaning that anyone would think that most seniors are not able to function on a perfectly normal basis and able to conduct their affairs or run their errands any time they like or is convenient for them, just like anyone else.

    What I do at 8:45 in the morning is my business and I fail to understand why I should conduct my life according to someone else's timetable!!

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  • Jasdip
    4 years ago

    I tend to do my grocery shopping during the day through the week and not on weekends. Whether it's at 10:45 or 12:30, it doesn't matter, it's whatever time I feel like going.

    Last week we had another hit of winter, snowsqualls, accumulation etc.

    To the drivers who insist on buying an SUV, pickup etc, clean the snow off the roof of the vehicle! If it's too high for you to reach, open the damned door and stand inside. I don't need chunks of icy snow flying off the roof of your vehicle.

    Also, there are headlights that you can turn on to better see you. Far too many people rely on just their Daytime Running Lights, they don't turn on your rear lights.

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  • nicole___
    4 years ago

    Yeah....I'm a senior....and now I'm the business owner! Oh....I look like I'm dressed to do construction or just too poor to afford to wear designer duds.....ha ha Get a clue! I hope when YOUR my age you can afford to buy groceries, much less be out at noon doing it.

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  • User
    4 years ago

    The rants about pedestrians in the parking lots and the dangers is real. I think, though, it is more about really bad design of the parking lots that is at fault. I never understood why it is necessary to have vehicle traffic flowing across the front of the store like so many do. Nay, as most do. It would make better sense to have pedestrian aisles between the rows of parked cars and all of the pedestrian aisles empty into the front entrance of the store where there is NOT a flow of traffic. Driving in front of a WM or Target or Costco with all of the customers in and out and walking straight across the line of traffic is a really bad idea that I try to avoid as a driver. I am surprised that more accidents don't happen.

    Some provision could be made for dropping off and for handicapped access.

    Of particular dysfunction is the local Costco situation. People are coming and going into Costco in great numbers and there is street traffic both entering and exiting across the very same space as people are walking between the moving cars to get to their own cars. I don't know how often a car and a body meet one another, but I do know that I have been in the store one time when there was someone hit and there were ambulances there and I know of people who have had their cars hit by other cars right there. Surprising that it is such a dangerous situation that just seems to continue.

    It is not all the fault of the pedestrians who are expecting a little safer passage than they actually have. People do stupid things, but I think it is more about the fact that the design of the parking doesn't accommodate the natural flow of pedestrians and the foibles of human nature.

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  • gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
    4 years ago

    My take on pedestrians and parking lots is that drivers tend to think they are still on the road and drive much too fast for the conditions. Of course there are going to be pedestrians present and drivers need to be aware of that all the time. Once you turn into the lot, slow down and pay attention!! As a pedestrian, I am looking out for you and trying to avoid so give me the same courtesy by not acting like you are in the Indianapolis 500 with your sole focus that most convenient parking space!

    My local grocery - a massive store with a massive parking lot - attempts to alleviate the situation by installing large zebra striped speed bumps to slow cars down and installing flexible plastic posts between the lanes to designate pedestrian walkways.

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  • User
    4 years ago

    little bug, your attitude towards senior is most ungracious. . Maybe you need to reflect on the anxiety that you feel during your lunch hour and try to make some changes in your lifestyle that you are not in store at that time of day anxiously fretting and becoming aggravated. Your comment seems to reflect more your own anxiety than it does on the actions of others.

    You can't change the world. You can only change your reaction to it.

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  • Elizabeth
    4 years ago

    Dear fellow shoppers,

    I enjoy shopping and I surely hope you do too. Grocery carts are huge these days, aren't they? Sometimes I see folks having trouble navigating the aisles. Might I suggest staying either right or left? Perhaps it is best to navigate as if the aisle were a two-lane roadway and you are in your car. There is no center lane. There is no center " parking" lane. I too often enjoy chatting occasionally with others while shopping. Parking both carts in the center of the aisle in a diagonal fashion is blocking traffic, can you not see that? I truly don't believe I am behaving rudely when I say excuse me to try and get past you. You needn't glare at me. I clearly do recognize the nature of the problem already.

    Now, I am a mother and Grandmother. I know that even in the nicest of families, children can mis-behave. I would truly appreciate it if parents would stop their children from running though the aisles like it is an Olympic competition and also requires screaming at the top of their lungs. Recently a child slammed into my stopped cart as they flew around a corner at top speed while being chased by another child. Only when the child nearly fell to the floor did the parent notice them. Or me. I did remind them that my cart was stopped. Not in motion. It took a minute to sink in.

    Mostly, do not sneeze or cough on me. Ever. I might snap!

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  • User
    4 years ago

    I will let someone in line go before me. Especially if they have a good reason, such as the folks trying to buy quickly at Target to catch that flight.

    I will let those with small hyper children go before me too.

    After all, I am a senior citizen and I am not rushed, almost, ever. I have the time to stand aside and observe and watch the world go by.

    It is but a small gesture and it doesn't happen all the time. Most people don't cut into the line, but there are some who are aggressive.

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  • blfenton
    4 years ago

    Maybe there should be a sign at the entrance to parking lots that pedestrians are sharing the roadways so drive with caution. I actually don't remember seeing posted speed limits in them either. A grocery store not too far from me has put stop signs in their parking lot at various intersections and perhaps that was done to address this issue. It's just a regular grocery store parking lot with no other retail.

    In sad news, in a small community about 45 minutes from me a 2-year old toddler and her mother were hit by a car in a grocery store parking lot last weekend. The toddler died. It's hit the small community extremely hard.

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  • sedona16
    4 years ago

    Dear Amylou321, please remember that pedestrians have the right of way....Even when they are walking across the parking lot and in front of your car (or SUV).

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  • amylou321
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Dear sedona16,

    Please read my letter thoroughly before attempting to school me. I acknowledged that clearly.

  • lucillle
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    In fact, depending on state law and where an accident takes place, there are times when pedestrians do not have the right of way (they do at marked crosswalks and mostly always in parking lots) even though many states also have statutory language that requires vehicle drivers to exercise due care to avoid hitting a pedestrian. This analysis comes up mostly where there has been an accident and the pedestrian has been injured and is trying to collect compensation for damages.

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  • Zalco/bring back Sophie!
    4 years ago

    Whether a pedestrian has the right of way or not, the law of gross tonnage prevails. Being right while being dead or injured is a cold comfort.

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  • lucillle
    4 years ago

    "You can be dead right"

    (Public service announcement I remembered from long ago).

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  • dedtired
    4 years ago

    Just catching up on this thread. Wowzw, the ”letter” to senior citizens is downright nasty. Hope the world is kinder to you when (and if) you are older.


    The right of way remarks reminded me of this poem.

    This is a story of John O'Day
    Who died maintaining his right of way
    He was right, dead right, as he sailed along
    But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.

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  • User
    4 years ago

    Most people are well aware of the fact that a pedestrian has the right of way, but if parking lots were reconfigured to more effectively separate them, it would be less of an issue.

    You have to remember, also, that many drivers are looking at that traffic and pedestrians can get overlooked. It is also true that pedestrians have a responsibility to watch and acknowledge that the driver of the car knows that they are there. In a busy parking lot like the one at my local Costco it is like a game of chance for both pedestrian and driver to dodge one another, like some sort of perverse video game. I just cannot, for the life of me, understand why this is not a very prominent and important public safety issue or that a company with the deep pockets of Costco would allow this liability. I never approach the store through one of those avenues. There are other ways into the parking lot at the back where there is not a concentrated number of people pushing small mountains of groceries.

    It happened to me just the other day that I was at a stop sign leaving a parking lot. I was at a four way stop and looking for my turn to pull away when my husband warned me to stop. There was a small man in a little low motor chair who was about to cross in front of my car. He was small, low profiled and dressed all in dark colors and I really just did not see him at all. He blended in to the rest of the landscape like a tree trunk amongst the rest of the leafless tree trunks. Shudder!!!

    People do pull around in a parking lot at unsafe speeds, often. I go very slowly in a parking lot and also when backing out. Even with a back up camera you never know when a small child might run across or someone is speeding around the corner. People will criticize for this and say that I drive like an old person. Maybe that is true because life has taught me a few lessons in hubris and caution.

    Accidents happen and sometimes they are simply the chaos of the universe at work.

    To the poster talking about people parking their shopping carts in the middle of the aisle. Once, again, I am without fault in this. Now, don't laugh. (Well, Ok, maybe laugh a little bit. ). Seriously, if you find others at fault for this, try not to commit the same error. I really do try to be considerate and NOT do this. Some people seem to not give any thought to it at all.

    Still, even though I am clearly a superior person who does not speed in parking lots or block the store aisle there are times when things happen, as I almost overlooked that small man in the motor chair.

    And, of course, I am NOT a superior person and not without fault. Just kidding.

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  • lgmd_gaz
    4 years ago

    dallasannie, I use a motor chair or as I call it, a handicapped scooter. Because of having that luxury, I don't really need to use a parking space dedicated for the handicapped and sometimes I feel it is wrong. But my DH insists, because of being so easily missed by drivers due to my lower position in their view, I do. The closer I am to my destination the less chance I have to being run over.

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  • User
    4 years ago

    This person was really out of my radar to the point where he just did not register. I can't quit mulling it over, the "what ifs". Shudder!

    I think that it would be to his advantage to have some sort of higher profile item that would raise his visibility up, like some sort of a small bright flag. Maybe it could be seen as insulting or somewhat negative towards him, but it is a bit like that about the right of way. Would he rather be flagged or dead? In this case, he had to navigate across four lanes of stopped traffic and each of them was going a different direction and each driver is watching each other driver, not the diminutive figure in the motor chair.. So many of the crossings put even sure footed folks in danger. This person was at a definite disadvantage and highly vulnerable.

    Myself, I make sure to make eye contact with the driver before crossing.

    Accidents between pedestrians and drivers are an active discussion around here. It is a large metropolitan area with a lot of both. Sure it is a topic in many places.

    In the burbs where the car culture dominates, both walking and biking are being encouraged as alternatives. The mix of pedestrians, bikes, and heavy traffic is a dangerous one that takes a toll.

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  • Mystical Manns
    4 years ago

    I had a co-worker several years ago who was ranting about the number of Seniors shopping during her lunch hour, which was 11 - noon. She went on and on, about why they were there at THAT time, they should pick their times better so as not to slow down workers who had limited time. I laughed and laughed ... and told her, when I retire, you think I'm going to be a clock watcher and "time" my shopping for all the various lunch periods out there? Get over yourself!!!

    I will say, when it comes to doctor visits, I leave it up to the scheduler when my appointments are so they can better accommodate people who work and want to have the first or last appointments of the day.


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  • chisue
    4 years ago

    dallasannie -- Thank you for mentioning something I had never considered! I'm going to try accessing our Costco via the far end of the parking lot, which is near the gasoline pumps at our local store.



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  • nicole___
    4 years ago

    This reminded me.....I'm going to buy "Scram" for ALL the dog walkers that let their dogs do their business in front of my driveway. :0)

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  • nickel_kg
    4 years ago

    dallasannie -- if your mind keeps returning to the scary situation, think of all the good you did by sharing your experience here. Now you've got dozen and dozens of drivers who will give a second & third look, and maybe a couple people will take action so they can be seen more easily. Replace the bad thoughts with the good. Thanks.

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