I agree with 2beachlovers, 36” between dishwasher and island isn’t really enough. The recommended minimum aisle width is 42”.. I don’t think your space is big enough for an island. If your have your heart set on it, a movable table versus a set cabinet base.

Thanks for your replies, I'm aware that 36" is not ideal, but I can live with it as a comprimise to get an island. I need the island for storage and countertop space for baking/cooking. We entertained a u shape originally but thought it would close off kitchen too much. Any feedback on the appliances?

I had similar aisle widths as you have in front of my range when we moved in to our house. It took about 6 months before I hated so much we started planning our kitchen remodel. We ended up with a U shape because it fit our space better. Mocking up the space with boxes and living with it for a while is a good suggestion.

im also looking at the Cafe range, but induction top and it seems to get high reviews. Plus it’s so pretty! The appliances you list have a huge variation in price, what is your overall project budget? Personally, I’d get the more “average” appliance and take the amount saved in appliances to look at moving walls/doors to improve the kitchen flow.

My overall budget is 40-50k, unfortunately, I can't move any walls and an addition is out of the question. When I initially started planning my project I ran it by few kitchen designers and all of them disliked my u shape idea and since my husband didn't care much for it either, I changed the design to the above layout

Also, with u shape kitchen, I will be forced to have the dishwasher perpendicular to the sink which wasn't optimal or if I elect to keep the DW next to sink, I will lose the corner space- I'm already tight on cabinet space.

Not a CKD, but I can spot several issues, so I would run your design past some pros.

If you need cabinet space, then corner drawers are wasting it. Move the fridge to the right end of the cabinet run and put a pantry cabinet where you show the fridge.

The dining table shown seems small for people who like to entertain a lot.

Your budget seems tight for what you’re planning. Based on my experience, to include that level of appliance you would be getting the cheapest cabinets and countertops.

I think you are choosing appliances prematurely and need to improve your design first.

Is it possible to move the DW to left of the sink? Your drawer would open down with more room. We’re also in the market for appliances, so I’ll be interested in your choices.

latifolia thanks for your reply, I already got bids from the contractors on my Job. I will be general contractor thus saving a good chunck there (Did the same when finished the basement, and very pleased with results), as far as cabinets we are getting Maple cabinets dully customed made by Amish local community ( who also did my basement and other small projects for me, they did amazing job and quality is top notch for all wood cabinets) thus. saving a nice chunck here also. As far as moving the fridge, the fridge was originally in the run where oven is and I hate it there bec it is in the way of entrance to and from garage, if you meant the run that has the sink, I have no space due to the patio door. The table we have extends and becomes double the length

also I need the Appliances now to make sure my measurements are accurate for the Amish.

You have no where near enough space in your walkways so no island in that space . Go to good appliance store and choose appliances for how you cook Bosch makes IMO the best DW but not the best range .Your fridge is too far from the sink and mant kitchens function much better without an island . If you entertain and cook a lot I would suggest a 36” range a pantry outside the cook zone is IMO wasted space and not functional I think you need a KD to help you understand the basics of kitchen design A U shaped kitchen is very functional but not if you mess it up with a useless island that makes cooking just a PITA. If you post a to scale floor plan of this space along with at least an idea of surrounding spaces you might get some real help here. Mark all windows and door ways and where the plumbing is if it has to stay.

J OBrien, thank you for your reply, I agree it will be better to move DW to the left, where the sink is now it will be centered with the window above it, not sure it that will look too odd visually

Take a look at this classic Houzz post on kitchen layouts: Ice, Water, Stone, Fire

It's important to think of the flow of meal preparation. Eg, taking veggies out of the fridge (ice) > washing them in the sink (water) > peeling/chopping on the counter (stone) > then roasting in the oven (fire). In the above layout, your fridge is across the room from your sink with an island in the way. Could you swap the locations of the range & sink?

You've said you're willing to compromise on walking space in exchange for counter/storage space that an island will bring. I encourage you to make a temporary island with cardboard and make sure that trade-off is practical for the way your family/guests move about the room.

patricia thank you for your input, I actually did run it by couple KD (with actual design degree) and they didn't like my u shape design ( my kitchen is 142" ×114"). Yeah I understand the fridge might not be ideal as per the work triangle rule but I'm limited with what I have. I will post a drawing with more detail of the whole space. Next to the fridge , I will have a tall 15" cabinet that I can use as mini pantry, the other one would be for things that will overflow. We know we want the bosch dishwasher, what do you think of the bosch counter depth fridge? I agree that 36" range would be a better choice, what do you think of the GE cafe dual fuel range? Appreciate your input

comelyhomely, I will post a better drawing but where the sink is now there is 36" window above it, if I would swap the range then I won't have a spot to place the hood ( we are 2 story home, the vent has to vent outside thru the wall)

I totally understand about working with the space you have and making trade offs. I am very likely going to have an island between fridge and sink as you do and I get that it is not preferable but I honestly think it will be fine. The only thing I would say you should really give some more thought to is having the island with both really small walkway aisles around it.

Not sure where the window is exactly along the 'bottom' wall... but a couple of different visualizations - one a sort of galley and the other a G shape

- Looks like you might also have a separate dining room? Where do you generally eat / use the two dining spaces?

(and actually for the galley, looking now, I might bump the DW even further down towards the wall to then have the sink more centered/more prep on both sides)

Salonva, thank you for your input, I have a mock island that is sitting in this spot now for the last month, we seem to be functioning comfortably in the space, I can always shave 2" off the island or cough up the money on integrated fridge

Damiarain, thank you for the ideas, although we have a dining room, it is not used as such. It is used as a piano room (no room to place anywhere else) and with two pianists in the house, it is going nowhere for a while, so we use mainly the kitchen area for all our meals and when we entertain