Looking for recommendations for disease-resistant stippled roses
linc1164 (Zone 7a central NJ)
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Comments (20)..."So you should ask yourself what you are ready to accept and then just try. Nobody will give you a guarantee, just see for yourself..." That last little bit of advice from Olga just might be the best advice of all. If you want perfect foliage, grow hollies (I do). And if you also REALLY like the look of a rose's plant habit, the bloom, the fragrance ... go for it. I held off on trying Souvenir de la Malmaison, Reine des Violettes, & Heritage way too long because of scary things some people say on this website about them. But they have become among my favorite roses and I will always grow them. Are they perfect? No. Are they beautiful & fragrant? Yes. I am realistic about blackspot in my no-spray garden. Incorporate well-foliaged, rose-friendly companion plants into the garden. I am tolerant of imperfection in others, in myself, in my life, and in my garden. Some will say I live in an area that has less blackspot pressure than where you live and that my comments are not relevant. But really, when it comes to disease resistance, and your tolerance for it, only you can decide by trial and error in your own garden as to what works and what doesn't. Be careful to not let others dictate what you can or can't do. Randy...See MoreThornless Climber Rose that is disease resistant , blooms long?
Comments (5)I also grow "Zephy". Bought it a cheep ($2.50) body bag 3 yrs ago. No problems at all with any disease. 1st yr it just grew long canes. No flowers. Last yr it threw off LONG canes and it covered itself with pink blooms. Last summer it threw off a bunch of long canes. At the present time it is a huge monster waiting to bloom. My neighbors are waiting also. They remember what it looked like last year. It will need a large area and a good strong support. I tried using plastic lattes to support. It is so big and heavy it tore it right down this past fall. And that was without any blooms on it. I've redone the support with 2x4's and 3/4" plywood cut to size and long heavy duty screws. Can't wait for this spring. Anyway, for me it is the perfect climber. Stick it in a decent hole in the ground, and get out of the way....See MoreSuggestions for a disease resistant climbing rose?
Comments (6)A few points: Most of Puget Sound is USDA 8. 8 ft tall is not enough for a truly vigorous rose, there are many that would outgrow your space - watch that you do not plant a 20+ footer because you looked for "vigorous". For instance, 'Climbing Cecile Brunner' is prevalent and easy here, but I have seen that up a utility pole and above the uppermost set of wires. You could, of course prune to control size - if so inclined. There is a 'Climbing Cecile Brunner' near me that is sheared to form a tight arch over a door-sized gap used for access through a sheared laurel hedge. It manages to bloom well despite being almost a topiary. Other ones seen to be pretty much carefree here include 'Alberic Barbier', 'Aloha', "Darlow's Enigma" and 'Madame Alred Carriere'. All of these except the second will try to bulge out of the area you have available, have to be pruned back at some point. The third makes prickles like fish hooks during the early years, when twiggy but appears essentially impervious to disease in this region. The last may show some mildew during the right conditions for it during summer (dry roots + dewy nights). With consistent, effective watering you may see little of it....See Morehardy, disease-resistant roses
Comments (2)In general, Buck roses aren't all that hardy. There are a few exceptions, like Applejack, but most are just crown hardy here. Disease resistance also isn't reliable. Hawkeye Belle had horrible problems with blackspot. Country Dancer is reasonably healthy, but less than 2 ft tall after about 7 years. Parkland roses are also problematic for blackspot. They are from a cold but dry prairie climate, and often struggle in the east. Morden Centennial was asked to leave at the same time as Hawkeye Belle, and for the same reason. Quadra is new last year, so it's hard to say what the final size and shape will be. Get it grafted. It doesn't seem to want to grow own-root. Seafoam looks to grow about 6 ft canes. Whether that is long enough for what you want, I don't know. The trick with the new trellis is going to be finding a rose the right size. A monster will eat the gate, a wimp won't do much of anything. My Quadra is in a similar situation, and I'm hoping it doesn't outgrow the spot. Captain Samuel Holland is exactly the right rose, but it's down the row a bit and I don't feel like moving it. John Davis is another possibility, and maybe Clair Matin....See Morelinc1164 (Zone 7a central NJ)
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