Aggie, Yeah, I know what you mean about the wasp problem. I have the same thing here and also spiders. I'm pretty sure if I'd leave the eggs and cats outside, almost none of them would make it. I think I will surpass my goal of raising 200 this year. I'm glad that you're finding a lot of eggs too. Maybe we can "pollute" PA with lots of Monarchs. :) About the three eggs on a leaf...I just found three again on a plant outside last evening (one of the ones I had outside in cups), and the eggs are placed so neatly in a triangular pattern. I just hope my daughter gets home before these eggs hatch so I can take a picture of them with her camera. I guess they won't hatch until Wednesday or Thursday since they were just laid yesterday (I just checked the plants the day before, so I know there were no eggs on that plant on Saturday, so I should be able to get a picture of them before they hatch. I didn't look for eggs last year, so I don't know if this same thing was happening last year or not. Maybe the Monarchs are laying lots of eggs because there are more predators around this year...I'm just guessing. I'm glad you didn't get stung by that wasp. My daughter was just stung about a week ago and of course, it didn't feel too good. I'm sorry that you lost your first eggs this year, but at least now you and I are taking them in. Now I'm wondering how many cats I lost last year because I didn't collect the eggs at all. I didn't feel confident enough to do that yet, but now I do, especially after I discovered that I think spiders had eaten some cats in my milkweed patch soon after they hatched. They aren't going to get any more if I can help it. Sherry, I wish I could get some GST's so I could find out how much easier they are to deal with than the Monarchs. :) I have rue planted but it's not real big. I have 14 plants in the ground and probably twice that many in small pots that I haven't decided where to put them yet. I want to make sure I have plenty for them for next year if they don't show up this year, so these should all be a pretty nice size by then. I will also be planting some gas plants, and maybe someday I'll buy a ptelea trifoliata. I'm even going to plant two different colors of gas plants (the flowers) in case they're fussy about the color. lol That's one butterfly that I really really want to get here. Another one I really want is the Common Buckeye, but neither the Verbena hasta seeds nor the Agalinus tenuifolia seeds came up (bought both off of ebay), so I don't have anything for them other than the plantain that's growing all over the yard. I planted snapdragons but if only go on the wild ones, then they won't go on these. I planted a few Paw Paw seeds for the Zebra Swallowtail, which is another one I really want to get here, but they are so slow growing! I planted them back in March and only one of them sprouted and has its first two leaves out. I have a feeling that I might have to also buy trees sometime, but I asked around the area and nobody sells that tree. I never even saw a PawPaw tree. I have parsley, dill, and rue planted for the BST's but I only got the male here one day about two weeks ago and haven't seen any since. I have a few Black Willow saplings growing for some others I'd like to get and Spicebushes for Spicebush Swallowtails. I really want to get to see that caterpillar...I think it's just the neatest looking cat with those "eyes"! I have the butterflies around here but don't know where they lay their eggs. It could be anywhere since we're surrounded by woods. We have small sassafrass trees growing along the edge of the woods and I've been checking them for cats but I found none. Oh, I saw my first American Lady here ever yesterday! There are loads of butterflies outside and it looked so nice. I hope it comes back tomorrow (it's raining today) so I can get a pic of it. Have fun on your trip even if it is for business. Sorry that you have to let the cats outside to fend for themselves, but if it's too much for hubby, I don't blame you for doing that. You already go above and beyond what 99.999% of the human population does, so you're allowed to "slack off". ;-) Randy, Thanks very much. I've been meaning to email you and tell you that the Willow trees I have are doing great! I will look forward so much to them hosting some butterflies that I want so much, i.e. Compton Tortoiseshell, Eastern Comman, Eastern Tiger Swallowtail, Mourning Cloak, Red-spotted Purple, and Viceroy. So far this year I've seen butterflies that I hadn't seen last year (my first year). RA's are here, Painted Ladies, and now an American Lady showed up yesterday. As I will have more of a variety of blooming plants here this year and following years, I'm anticipating seeing butterflies that I didn't see last year. I did the bulk of the planting this year but am also going to put a few more things in next year. Susan, Yeah, woo hoo is my exclamation for now. I just hope it doesn't turn into boo hoo if I run out of food for them. I seriously thought that 200 + plants was going to be enough, but now I'm starting to wonder since the female or females just keep dumping eggs here like crazy. I'm not complaining, but I'm kind of in shock that they would do this to me. I wouldn't be concerned if my plants would all be big plants, but I just started most of them this year, so a very large percentage of the plants are only 1-2 feet tall yet. I just hope that the ones in cups the caterpillars already ate will sprout out again so they can feed some more caterpillars. I must have 100 milkweeds just on the back porch, but most of them are in cups so aren't really more than 1-2 feet tall. I have been bringing most of the eggs and cats in on the computer stand so they cat eat in peace and grow until I'd see they were pretty big and would pupate soon, so then I'd put them into individual jars and feed them leaves for a day or two. I will still keep some in here, but now it's getting to the point where I can't do that for them all or I'd have to get rid of the printer and the monitor and still not have enough room for everyone. Ha. I pinned a lot of eggs onto plants on the back porch and hope that spiders don't find them. [Note: I'm not doing any more of the pinning because it's awkward for me and I ended up losing two eggs in the process.] The porch just isn't airtight or even close to it, so I know that spiders can crawl in there. At least I'm pretty sure the wasps and flies won't get in unless they come in when one of us is going in or out the door, but if I see one, it's a goner. I don't like any kind of flies, so it doesn't matter what kind comes in, it's dead. Anyway, I will raise these caterpillers I have right now and they will pupate in jars, but I think the whole slew that I will have hatching from eggs this week will go into the big cage. Since none are in there at all yet and since these in eggs will all be pretty much the same size, I don't foresee a problem. I guess any eggs I find right after that will have to be brought in the house or the back porch because I wouldn't want to put those in with the big guys. Maybe after the ones in the cage pupate it would be okay to start putting some in there. Do caterpillars get after pupas? If they do, then I don't know what to do because I only have so many places to go with all of these eggs and cats. No doubt about it, this is a fulltime job. It's good I'm not working or I'd have to call in sick everyday. :) Thanks for sharing in my happines. I was hoping to get other kinds of cats to raise, but I think I'm about as happy as I can stand right now. lol Cathy

My faith in humankind has been restored on this beautiful Lord's Day! As I prepare to go to Church & worship my God above, the one who has been taken out of schools, courthouses, & many homes in this day & time, it is so good to see a great bunch of people that are 'back to the basics I was brought up with, in rural NC. I feel that my love for nature & the 'calling to raise b'flies' has been given to me from God, it is the greatest therapy for a person that lives in daily agonizing pain, & I have done that since '82. It has gotten me off of the sofa, looking at soaps. Never was one to pop pills, though there were pills given by the various drs, for Lupus pain, Fibromyalgia pain, which is unrelenting, pain from 3 failed lower back surgeries, & so on. But I can go outside, among my plants, (with a very moderate amount of pain medication), which have always been a hobby all my adult life, & find a peace, unlike any other. Seeing the seeds planted, growing each day, & the growth spurt after the evening t-shower, more than if I had given a good dose of fertilizer, knowing the purity of the water released from the heavens above has a growing power unlike anything man can make. I am not a fanatic, but I do find a special inner peace watching the creation emerging from the chrysalis, knowing it "went in as a caterpillar", came out as a beautiful creation, & that amazing change was done by One greater than I or anyone I know, on this earth in the flesh, today. We all are doing our part to make this world a better place to live in. We are, I believe trying to help get back to that time when the earth was a cleaner place; before the dirt & smut was so in control. I can remember when a young teen guy wouldn't go out without his jeans being starched & ironed, with that sharp crease, & that button down collar wasn't just right. Some of you probably don't remember those days. But in sharp contrast, the more ragged, & dirtier they can look, the better they like it. No more neat clean hair styles, but unkept unruly, & dirtier they look the more "in" they are. I am not being judgemental, to each to his own. But to get out among the plants, gives me a sense of being in contact with something good & clean, no matter how bad the pain, or what is on my mind, I can find a sense of peace unlike any other place, during the normal weekday. I enjoy my Church & what I find there, but I feel I bring part of that home with me, in scripture I hear, sometimes it is reflected in my activities outside during the week. None comes to mind at the moment, but God is so good, to give us these beautiful creatures, & place the love in our hearts to want to help them. To go beyond planting the flowers, but to go that step further that some don't understand. Let them take one egg, watch it go through the stages of growth, into the pupa, then the beautiful chrysalis of the Monarch, especially, like a piece of jade that a master artisian sculpted, & flecked with gold, I sat in total awe when I saw my 1st one, & then to watch when it gets transparent, & see the new creature inside. And, on to the final stage, when that beauty of the spread drying wings is present, they are magestic. Nobody can tell me that came as a result of the 'big bang theory'! Not even sure what they say made the ocean that this big bang or whatever it was supposed to have been. Some magical force? No, a Creator, that loved us enough, & I won't go any further, but we are all giving nature some help that the world has taken away. And we wonder why there are guns in schools, & knives.. I well remember the shock in our small town when the "No guns or knives allowed on school property" sign went up! The very thought of this was shocking, & then the rest is history. We are doing our part to help keep our world a better place to live. I don't know of too many men or ladies who raise b'flies who shot their c-store operator, or robbed the bank, or turned out to be serial killers. Didn't mean to go on so, but I see God Almighty in every butterfly that I release, & I thank Him for giving me the 'want to' to do this hobby. I just found a picture that I took of my first BST & a little saying I felt inspired to write "For by watching the phases of the butterfly, from the egg, to the caterpillar, all the way tp the final stage, the beautiful butterfly; surely we see the Hand of God at work, before our eyes, in today's world, as in the days of old, and appreciate even more His Wonderous Love for us daily." The photo is old, & the ink of the writing is a bit smeared, but it is so special to me. This was before I knew anything about butterflies & the terms, etc. Love to you all & In God I do trust..monarchs

thanks everyone!! The one that came out today flew off. The sun came out for about 20 minutes and I put her in the sun. I took the screen off the plastic tote and off she went. Next 3 days, rain and cooler...hope the other 2 don't come out for a few days. Elisabeth, you made me feel better that you think the butterflies are made for the cooler weather...and I would never let them out in a downpour. I also worry that there is not much food around. I put hummingbird sugar water on the butterfly bush lol the lil yellow BF like it so hopefully a hungry monarch will eat it too.

My ten that I have released for this season all took between 10 and 12 days from pupation to eclosion. The trend was to noticeably darken after 8 pm, have obviously visible wings in the morning around 7 am, and emerge between 9 and 10:30. This morning I had an early-bird who was out when we came down at 7:30 for breakfast. I don't know if it is relevant but is a substantially warmer morning than we have had recently. I hope you and your friend have a lovely time. Meredith