Help ID Hybrid Tea/Grandiflora? :)
This rose was sort of inherited about 4 years ago. Some neighbors moved and gave it to me. It had been in their garden for a while, but I have no idea of how long, if it was fairly recent or a long time.
It gives me these enormous, luminous whitish blooms. They have pinkish or grey undertones, depending on the weather. It has the loveliest foliage, is pretty Disease resistant, doesn’t mind the heat although the blossoms will singe on the edge in the very hottest parts of summer.
In this mild spring weather, it has been very pale, almost a grayish white. Usually it has pinkish, pearlescent edges. I guess it takes the heat to bring that out a little. I had tentatively identified it as ‘Moonstone,’ but that was sort of just a shot in the dark. It does resemble Moonstone, though. I have always referred to it as my “opal” Rose, because that’s what it looks like to me. Almost iridescent.
I don’t have a very good picture of it with the pink coloration, but I’ll post what it looks like now. It is hard to get a good picture of it because even though the petals have a lot of substance, and are heavy, it damages very easily, so it usually has either insect or sun damage, or both.
It will usually bloom in a cluster of three large blooms or one single, slightly larger. The Japanese beetles love it do death. Almost literally.
Do any of you know what my rose could be? I really, really like it, and I would like to know more about it. Thank you!
(also, I know that I really need to move that peony behind it. Sigh. Too much to do in the garden!)
A cluster
a couple of nearly spent blooms
A single
Foliage
a “Bush” shot, such as it is. Nearly died down to the ground this year.
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Krista_5NY
4 years ago
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Comments (19)I suppose it could be TOR, but I really don't agree. Here is why... If you look at the first picture and bloom close-up posted by wasted wages, the bloom form is flat and almost identical to a Camelia bloom. This is a classic bloom trait of an open Sexy Rexy bloom. I have never seen TOR ever produce a bloom that looks like a Camelia. The bloom form on TOR is almost always a classic high centred and pointed HT form throughout the bloom life cycle. As they age, the bloom also opens in the center and reveals the stamens clearly. The blooms in wasted wages bush shot seem way too flat and not high centred enough to be TOR. You can even see all this in the picture that ontheteam posted up. Moreover, TOR also often has a touch of yellow in the bloom as it opens and the two tone pink colouration is typically stronger and more noticeable when its blooms open. Also, in warmer climates, Sexy Rexy may only have 2" blooms, but in colder climates, the blooms are easily 3-3.5" across on well grown and healthy plants. I grew 3 of them for many years and the blooms are far from small here. My biggest problem was that the canes would often break after a rainfall due to the weight and size of the bloom clusters and individual blooms. I'll post up some pics of Sexy Rexy and TOR in the next day or so....See MoreCan anyone ID this hybrid tea?
Comments (31)I filled out the online contact form for Hopewell nursery and received an e-mail back, so I sent pictures of the rose. The grower said it looked like Pink Enchantment. (AKA Souvenir de Baden Baden.) So it looks like greenburgroses and Beth were right! Chris--could Hopewell have gotten a trial under the Pink Enchantment name? I really appreciate everyone's efforts!...See MoreID needed - hybrid tea?
Comments (21)I just find it all so interesting. I've been on a quest to discover all I could about this 1902 house since we bought the property two years ago, and that for me includes the contents of the garden. You can find my full rose ID post, including an as yet still unidentified yellow rose and an unknown old hybrid sempervirens rambler over here. Among other things, learning about the garden is a window into who owned this house and how they lived. The house is one of the oldest on the island and predates roads. At the time it was built it would have been approached by boat, and all business on the island would have been done by boat. Need groceries? Paddle over and get some. It has quite a high ceiling for the time, and it's Craftsman-like while being just a smidge too old for the Craftsman movement. Whoever built it was unusual for the time as well in that they replanted. The island had been clear cut, and this particular property was replanted with native Western Red Cedar which was not common at the time, making them some of the oldest Wester Red Cedars on the island. And roses, as well as some of the other plants, can be to some extent dated, at least to when that specific rose was bred which can at least suggest when they might have been planted. How can that not be interesting? Of course it may be that I'm just weird. :)...See MorePink Enchantment, is it a hybrid tea or a grandiflora?
Comments (13)Lilyfinch, Sorry, my camera skills do not exist...never been able to take a decent picture in my life except for two times, 26 years ago. The photo of Pink Enchantment at Heirloom Roses shows a bloom that is just about as good as the best ones my bush has produced...ice cream dessert looking kind of flower, very appealing. During the heat of summer the pink center is much paler. There is a shot of a large bed of PE on HMFR under its photo subject index. I will tell you, Pink Enchantment's foliage growth pattern is just like that of the HT, Memorial Day, with shortish leaves having tightly arranged, normal sized leaflets. The entire leaves droop naturally. You can see it in Ashley's photo above. They are not wilting as you might think. This trait annoys me slightly, but the other redeeming points of Pink Enchantment outweigh this slight negative. There is also a better than medium fragrance, but not strong. I would give it a try, especially since Chamblee's stocks it at a most reasonable price. It is also ADR which means vigor, disease and winter hardiness are pretty high. Moses...See More
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