Sounds like you are renovating the entire bathroom. You have a $2,550.00 Plumbing Allowance and the scope of work for your bathroom renovation is new tile, new fixtures, new trims, new vanity etc. I'm guessing that the bathroom may be 15-20 years old if you have noticed green corrosion on some of the fittings. Many old lines where never insulated and often these sweated copper joints where not wiped after being soldered. The combination of condensation and remaining flux can cause this to happen - it's possible your copper lines are in contact with another form of metal as well, perhaps a strap tie or tie wire. Local water conditions and pipe decay can build up in old lines and we rarely work off old product. If you wish to have the same water pressure into your fixtures 1/2" copper needs to be re sweated or better yet replaced. We like to switch to new 3/4" pex lines into the shower and branch off these lines in 1/2" pex to the basin and toilet. We isolate the new 3/4" home runs with 1/4 ball valves so we can pressure test the new plumbing lines prior to framing inspections. We find 3/4" pex gives us great supply rate and compares much closer to the original 1/2" copper lines. Any time you work off old lines you are bound to get debris into the new work. It is important to flush these lines prior to installing the mixing values and other plumbing fixtures. Debris caught in toilets can create strange noises and that caught in spray heads greatly decreases water pressure. Read the install manual with your new tub filler and it will ask for the cartridge to be pulled and the valve flushed. I believe it's a mistake to invest in a bathroom renovation without upgrading all these old water lines. Better to have it all tested and new and ready for another 15-25+ years of service. If your flipping the property these cost may seem crazy - if it's your home and a future repair involves redoing the floor and walls you can look at it as insurance. Flood your drain and vent lines with water or air. Do the same with the water lines. Wrap your pipes and get ready for the good stuff because the funniest part of the renovation is around the corner. You will never be sorry asking your contractor to tell you what the costs include. If your getting everything above and all the finishing the price looks reasonable I have paid more for similar projects but if your getting a few 'Shark Bites'* and all the old work stays it sounds a little high. Not having seen your project first hand - if you have found your builder to be fair and reasonable there should be no reason to think he is overcharging this one sub trade. Often I include a day of my wages in the plumber allowance to allow for my time planning routing and helping with the rough in. I like to see the valves level, the tub's filled and everything checked. Laying out the fixtures exactly takes time and these fees can be included in this number. *Shark Bites are code approved pipe connectors for switching from one pipe to another of different type. They can be used with no tools and speed up the process 5 fold. They are expensive and very handy it tight spots.

(oh why didn't I see these OKA lampshades before? oh my. no I did end up finding something cute..but I was really looking into this cone shape and couldn't find anything right..color wise and size wise..) who knows why somebody doesn't like something. my DH looked at all the library lights I was looking into, for reading in bed, and said "no..they look like they belong in a library". lol I must say I do give him art. It generally goes much better than giving him clothes lol. (though some were a success. he's reluctant to wear anything that might read as too good-in his mind I mean. this person amazes me..) He gives me art and music:) That way we both enjoy the gifts...:) lightened Mission..yes..I didn't go into details in my mind just yet but a lot of creamy white came to mind You know we got this Mission very close to us..a real one..the San Juan Capistrano one..amazing gardens around..the church still functions as far as I know..and they've got a little museum to show how the people who inhabited this Mission (one of fourteen Missions I think that were built along California Coast) actually lived. obviously they needed much less in terms of decor. But yes, white walls come to mind, perfect counterpoint to dark wood furnishings..natural materials..simpler shapes..and yes, magnificent garden around-makes everything inside magical too. So i see a garden brought in.. House Vixen I love your analysis:) Say a person X saw visuals...now he's looking for words. (well I'm always looking for words in anything so I agree-depends on a person) In my case it's simpler than remodeling and/or major rethinking of a space, changing furniture, etc It's about changing the mood ever so slightly. It's seemingly easier. But it's hard because everybody's always been content in a house that's exudes a pretty happy vibe. Myself included. I made it so after all. And then you get shifted. And everybody's puzzled. Why the "dark" side? did they give you cookies? lol If it was a theater I'd move walls depending on the mood:) But it's not a theater..it's a house.. I don't want to hijack pippiep's thread..I just want to add : pippiep.. when I asked you about designers..well I got so much more about your home and what is it about it that you'd change, from your answer whether you listed names or not. I guess becky's right..conversations do help. you figure out things when you talk..sometimes..and others figure out things too..sometimes:) doesn't have to be exact, at this time..it's like a hint of the future..like you're sitting down to write an essay and you sit there for forty or fifty minutes and it looks from the side you're doing nothing, your page is clean..but then you take a pen and it all starts flooding onto the page. you go blank-but the inner workings take place, invisible to others-and then the whatever you've got in your mind finally takes shape?

Hi all! My husband and I are considering this plan to build and have a few questions Has anyone turned the loft into a 4th bedroom? If so, how did you relocate the staircase to the bonus? did yoh add access to the bathroom to make it another jack/jill? We are in Fayetteville NC and would love to see the house in person if anyone is relatively close? or just drive by to see the outside I am a licensed Realtor and my husband will be our builder Thank you!

Thank you for the comment! I have an 8x8 kitchen in the guest house, and that guest house is just for my teenagers to hang out really, not like we are expecting the Queen of England to visit, and I was all ready to get an ikea kitchen because it looks easier to install with the rails and etc. But then I got overwhelmed with choices and parts and assembly and their planner tool... So my $1500 kitchen plan quickly morphed into $3500. Plus the planner tool said I needed like 200 items (feet, shelf pegs, rails, hinges, toe kick, yada yada just too much work for one impatient person. So then I thought, I know Knoxhult! Modular, so easy to order, few decisions to make... But you can only put an RV sized sink into that. So then Homedepot unfinished have served me well in the past, and they have a 60" sink cabinet for $159! It looks nice, I mean it's not hand-hewn teak but whatever. I would rather stain than paint because I hate painting... But now I'm thinking artichoke green with wood counter would be so nice. Anyway, I have a few months before moving forward but I think I'm going with the unfinished. Good luck on your project! And the dogs look innocent to me... I think the cat framed them!