What rose is it ? Sometimes they just aren’t very thick , nature of the variety . 5 stems is great . I wouldn’t call about that personally . Once your rose is leafed out and growing well you probably won’t even remember what it started as ! :)

Munstead

Ha. I even went googling on RR and I came across a older thread asking a same/similar question as it has sooo many baby thorns on it. The canes on this thread are nothing like mine (in diameter)

[https://www.houzz.com/discussions/are-theses-roses-thorny-or-rrd-dsvw-vd~5229071[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/are-theses-roses-thorny-or-rrd-dsvw-vd~5229071)

I would describe that as spindly in nature . I’ll look at mine in the am but I wouldn’t worry !! That is the most annoying thorny rose that I love :)

Got it. I was just thinking *cane size* relative to bloom support - aka, thicker will not flop on blooms.

I'm sure this statement may be more a species/cultivar answer, but why are all the stems on the roses at HomeDepot ( they are anywhere from 2-3X thicker) than the DA BR I have received. ( I have never looked at roses in all my years of gardening....albit I bit the bug this year)

Well Munstead is kinda floppy . You will enjoy the fragrance I think !

When you say roses at Home Depot.. do you mean their bare roots ? A lot of them are hybrid teas which are typically a stronger thicker stem bred for cutting and showing . It really does depend on the rose variety. You may notice that a bare root has thicker canes than a rooted cutting from say roses unlimited or northland, because they are taken from the thinner stems that recently bloomed. Though they seem smaller .. in a few years time you would hardly notice the difference.

Yes, bare roots. Not really related to the OP, but I was wondering why the stems on those offered at HD looked like they were on extra fertz .

I'm slowly digesting all the new rose grower things, but all of ya'll say roses are hard to kill, so I suppose these canes will just get bigger as the weeks, months years go by.

Good point by Lillyfinch that some roses have thin canes by nature.

But if that’s not the case (OP implies 2 canes are thick) : does anyone believe a one(plus) year old cane is going be appreciably thicker with time (sans rrd)?

Please solicit a response from DA and report back to us here.

There is a reason Rene from Palantine advocates removal of girly (my reference is SNL - Hans and Franz - circa late 80s) canes.

a1an, I think you will be very surprised at how short a time those canes will take to become strong and thick.

The ones at HD are grafted and like LF said, mostly hybrid teas.

The skinner ones are not unusual. Don’t put mulch right against the stems is my only advice.

Rifis , I do think the older canes will be thicker . My teasing Georgia is my oldest rose . It has some old canes thicker than my pruners can cut , and then obviously newer ones are thinner.

I agree with seil , I find them very charming!! If you don’t like nodding , you may find yourself loving hybrid teas and grandifloras . Lots of great roses in every type you could like !

Thread BRUMP.

Thumbs up for DA Customer Service ! Sent them a pic of my Munstead - which only grew up to a foot tall at most. Sent them pics of my other DA plantings of same time which 3-4X higher and canes 4-5X thicker than the toothpicks I had with MW after a growing season. DA's sending me a replacement.

Should I straight compost the original and just shoehorn it somewhere and see if it grows out...of it's sad state

I would plant it or give it to someone. My little cuttings start so small and in time are large bushes.

I got one from DA with one skinny cane and one nice cane but it also has graft issues so they are replacing it.

alan, I would just keep it or maybe move it to a less viewed area. Maybe it will perk up and start growing but if you hate it, get rid of it lol.

Well all things considered...all the other BR roses grew 3-4X higher, 2X wider...and was not a puny lil 12" straggler all season.

I mean it did look weak when I got it (the 1st post in this thread). Let's see how the replacement fares out this year...

I've read lots of ravings on MW. Maybe I just got a bad one ?

Is your little one grafted or own root? I got one from Austin that was grafted and its 6ft the other is own root and probably less than 2ft. I definitely prefer it grafted here but I am in a warm climate.

Grafted.

Off topic. I wish there was a place I could just -handpick- my own BR. Well, I guess the local nuserys do have them...cannot recall but I think there were around $75 per when I saw the DA last year. Depending on the shrubs....it's all about the -framework- for me.