Few comments

- I would think twice about the arrangement of where the ovens, fridge, corner pantry door and island seating are. All 4 of those things share the same aisle - such that if the pantry door is open and someone's seated at the island you cannot access the fridge. Similarly, upon opening the oven to get a hot item out, where do you put it? The closest bit of counter is the island, but what if someone is seated there? Just a really unsafe, non-functional set-up.

- I assume the windows in the bottom corner are lower than counter height? And that you're not interested in raising them? If so, do you need nook seating and island seating in the kitchen?

What are you hoping to accomplish with the reno? I love that you & your whole family are into cooking & baking and I think you have a good amount of space to make a wonderfully functional space.

There is a comprehensive thread ([New to Kitchens[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first-dsvw-vd~5500754)) that is worth checking out. Also, the black layout with neon colored text/lines is hard to read. White background, black lines. One layout of the unchangeable dimensions is a great start (ie width, length, doorway and window size & positions, etc etc)

Can you post this plan without the black background? It's too hard to read.

Here is the original layout of the kitchen (we added rolling cart as a peninsula). We are taking out the wall with the windows and extending it out from 12'-11" to 16'-11". Goal to fit an island and have more counter in general. There is already a separate dining room in the house that opens to the living areas.

Great points on the oven as well as the pantry/fridge collision. Initially we had the oven next to the pantry but were trying to shorten the steps in the triangle.

Here is B/W. Swapped oven and fridge. Still iffy.

Personally, I would re-orient your island the other direction; parallel to the stove. This would give you the fridge and oven at the top run, the prep sink in the island, and then the stove on the long run, creating a main work zone. The clean-up zone on the window wall is then separate in it's own space, which is super-helpful in giving different people in the kitchen different areas to work in. The downside is that the island shrinks in size overall. However, with the table and stools in the corner, perhaps you don't need seating at the island?

In your latest version above, with the oven and fridge swapped, your island is now a barrier to your work space.

The most functional layouts will use the prep sink on the island to create a triangle between fridge, stove, and prep sink, as these are the things you want in close proximity.

Agree. The prep sink and seating need to switch sides.

Wow. Very appreciative of the information so far. Glad I asked as we started demo last weekend. The concept for the last 12 months was what backyardfest described (i think). The big island solution came very recently but posed a lot of triangle flow issues. Two options using the same footprint.

A lot of bakers like having a table-height workspace to roll out dough, knead, or even just mix. Children also may prefer a lower table height space instead of counter height. My daughter, at 20, will still do most of her meal prep at the kitchen table instead of at a counter.

hmmmm. Going back to the sketch board on this now. Will plan to work up some other considerations tomorrow.

Do you need two pantries including such a large one breaking up your corner? Especially since corner pantries are not as wonderful.

Here is what I'd do. An L, not a U.

Additionally if you have a dining room right nearby do you really need the seating area in the kitchen as well as the island seating? Seems a bit much.

Update... Pulled the trigger 9 months ago and finished performing major DIY surgery right before thanksgiving (Wednesday at 8pm to host Thursday at 3pm to be exact). Still have backspalsh and floor tile but it's good enough to celebrate.

Thank you to all for the feedback and especially to Damiarian for the comment on landing area near the oven and fridge. This helped me avoid a major issue I would have missed, and then hated forever. It also certainly put my thought process into a different "how do we use this" mode. And from there I've found way too many beautiful magazine level kitchens with poor layouts as well as other small tweaks in my own design that we recovered along the way.

The pantry corner is a little crowded but workable and maintained a good triangle between stove main sink and fridge. The pantry swings to the right so you can leave it open and bring groceries from the counter to the fridge & pantry at the same time. With a household of 5 and cooking 6 nights a week this is not a show kitchen for us.

Enjoy the video. We hired concrete, masonry, drywall and counters. Everything else (permitting included) was DIY self performed.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1r_GtwL-rWhU02rv-yrtM9WbiHlWukyvE

Panorama shot for full layout

Congratulations! Turned out great. Loved seeing the whole family making memories working together. You will love looking back on your video twenty years from now. Looking forward to seeing it with the floors and backsplash.

Floor and backsplash tile are finally in. A few small trim details left to be 100% complete (an unachievable DIY goal). Also ended up changing the wall color to go better with the grey floor tile. Now on to tile and paint the rest of the house to match...

Still to early to say if the island sink was worth it (I'm still thinking it will be).

Did open shelves in the island. Good for the large mixer or can be pulled for a 24" wide something (microwave, wine fridge, who knows).