Can I have a flagstone retaining wall with paver patio?
Michelle Roth
5 years ago
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Flagstone patio...can I lay stone on powder sand?
Comments (6)The sand I use between pavers here in PA is called polymeric sand (contains polymers). It sounds like the same thing as stabilizing sand mentioned above. It is costly. It is around $22.00 for 60 pound bag. It comes in a tan or gray mixture. I don't suppose there is much limestone available in Florida. We use a base of modified stone here (limestone about an inch or so mixed with limestone "dirt" (that's the modified part), so that you can put down a 4 - 6 inch base and tamp it so that it really packs down. Then use 1 inch diameter pipes (appropriate length(s)) to lay down on the packed base which is slightly sloped for water runoff, dump sand (coarse construction or cement sand) in the area of the pipes that are resting on the base and use a straight board (2 x 4) of required length to "screed" or level the sand (don't tamp it) to the one inch depth (the top surface of the pipes will be slightly exposed). Starting at a convenient spot, lay the pavers on the sand and work your way around the area, moving the pipe as required to cover a manageable section with sand, laying pavers as you go. Try to slide the pipe(s), maintaining contact with the base at all times, and fill in the groove left by the pipes with sand, leveling lightly with a flat metal cement hand trowel or something similar....See MoreDo you have pavers or flagstone on your patio?
Comments (10)Pammyfay, I have had both. I had flagstone installed about ten years ago and hated, hated, hated it. BUT, that is not to discourage you because I now know mine was not installed properly. They just took up the grass, put a bit of sand down and laid the flagstones. The problem was that I had not down my research - not much on the internet then. I just trusted someone. He left large gaps and the stones shifted. Every year I tried to fill in the holes and smooth it out. Finally, last year I had it replaced with pavers and love, love, love it. I like that there are no gaps and that it is very easy to care for. Budge1, your combination sounds wonderful. Flagstone done correctly is beautiful. I would think it would take more care as there are larger gaps in it. I used some of the flagstones to create two walkways in my gardens. My best suggestion whatever you choose is to do your homework. Read, read, read on the internet how it is supposed to be done, i.e., depth of base, slope away from the house, etc. Then when someone comes to give you an estimate, you can know if they know what they are talking about. I love the look of flagstones and if my husband hadn't heard me b*tch about them for over ten years, I may have tried them again. Stamped concrete is yet another look. I have seen it done beautifully. I wanted the more natural, old-world look. Now if it would only warm up a bit here in northern Ohio and stop raining, I could enjoy it!!! Before: After:...See MoreInstalling paver patio at ground level with retainer on top of base??
Comments (3)Thanks for the reply. No gravel was below grade - everything was graded flat and the paver base was spread over it. The decorative pea gravel in the adjacent areas was supposedly going to prevent the paver base from settling and spreading. The company has lots of great Yelp reviews so I wanted to double check to see if there was any reason this type of installation would be OK but I ended up putting the brakes on it because it just sounded so absurd....See MoreRedoing easiest retaining wall first, can I remove vertical 4x4's?
Comments (15)It sounds like you're saying that there is continuous slope downward from the door. If that's the case, as long as you fix the puddling depression, the walk will drain. I'm saying not to create too much slope of the soil alongside and aiming toward the walk, as it will slowly but continuously dump soil onto the walk, creating the never-ending clean-up chore. The retaining wall solution I've shown above, being more or less a level, elevated area of soil, is probably the best solution because it doesn't aim any washing soil toward the walk. Water that doesn't permeate the ground escapes toward the left, in sync with the overall flow of drainage. The downside is that it requires a fair amount of wall material. (BTW, porches and decks are MORE OR LESS level, but they actually have a minute slope in order to drain. The elevated area captured by the retaining wall would be similar. Excess water must have a way out. A solution that uses a little less material is one similar to that shown in the picture below. Instead of the wall footprint having a final "leg" that returns toward the building, it would end with the the "leg" parallel to the longest walk and would slope downward so as to terminate flush with the grade. Overall, this does not motivate water to travel quite as far leftward, keeping it longer in the lawn such that it is "cleaned" before arriving at the longest walk. But it would work, probably adequately for the situation. I know all that may be confusing and I hope the drawing helps clarify it. Could not add pic. Houzz must be messing with the system. Will do it later....See Moresmit2380
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