Do you have pavers or flagstone on your patio?
pammyfay
14 years ago
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your comments regarding laying paver on old concrete patio
Comments (14)Since the existing patio is on a granular base (as opposed to solid concrete) I would absolutely, positively NOT consider any mortared work on top of it. The reason is that the earth is a flexible surface. Though it moves so slowly you can't see it, it is doing it nevertheless. If you were to mortar flagstone or thin brick on top of it, this work would effectively be only as thick as the mortar that glued it on ... 1/2" maybe (?) It wouldn't be thick enough to support itself as the earth underneath shifts. If you're going to mortar something on top, you need a 4" solid concrete, driveway-like base (3 1/2" actual) that will not flex at all. But you could go over it with regular thickness pavers on sand IF you insulate the two layers with an inch of sand. (This is predicated on knowing that the existing base is of SOLID compacted material. Since it's been there a good while, its present shape is a good indicator of how solid the base is.) I would go so far as to say that if the present patio was perfect condition -- smooth, of perfect grade, and all slab joints perfectly matched -- you could go over it without the sand insulation. But it's not likely that it's that perfect. If you go over it, one thing you'll need to pre-plan carefully is the finish grade. It looks like your grade might end up being too high. I don't know what all the holes at the foundation are for, but they're probably not wanting to be blocked. If you need a lower grade, sell all those slabs on craigslist (someone would probably love to have them ... they look like step treads, BTW) and build directly onto your already existing base....See MoreConcrete vs pavers vs flagstone patio
Comments (1)We had a similar decision to make last winter and ultimately went with concrete. For us, the look of concrete goes better with the house and it's cleaner because there is no sand between pavers to track inside. That, and it was the cheapest option. Wet-laid flagstone and brick are much nicer but about 5x the cost. Depending on the gravel, there may only be minimal surface prep needed before being able to pour right on top since you're already 4" deep. Especially if you go with concrete, make sure you get someone who knows what they are doing and gives you details on exactly what will be done (rebar spacing, type of concrete mix, finish type, cut lines, etc). It's true that concrete cracks. After 1 harsh winter we have a few _hairline_ cracks (you really have to look to see them) but even so we're still very happy how the slab turned out....See MoreHow do you hide your stuff on your patio?
Comments (8)A friend of mine got a Rubbermaid cabinet -probably six feet tall and two feet wide. It has two doors that open up to reveal about four or five shelves. She keeps beach towels in there, and for small things like goggles, sunscreen, etc., she uses small plastic rectangular baskets on the shelves. I always think it looks and works great. Here is a link that might be useful: Similar to this.......See MoreCan I have a flagstone retaining wall with paver patio?
Comments (13)Michelle Roth , I'm going to retract my comment that the materials may not look good together. I'm posting pictures of a house that was for sale nearby that used pavers and river rock. (so not exactly flagstone but a similar). When I saw this listed on the MLS, I was wowed and thought this looked great. I wasn't thinking "Oh the materials are different." lol. (fwiw, there are pics that show off the yard better. I'm uploading the ones with the biggest swath of materials, so you can see). I think your contractors are probably right, that's the uneven flagstones could cause problems set in sand. If you're going dry-set, pavers can fit much closer together, so fewer weeds! Plus dry-set is permeable, so better for the environment. (rain can return to the water table). I think it's also easier to lay vs. concrete. I'm going to be re-doing my backyard patio later this year. My landscape architect said that cost-wise, the cheapest is stamped cement, then pavers, then stone. In addition to the cost of the stone, I think the labor is a lot more, trying to get everything to line up. Thanks for starting this thread. It's helping me decide. I think I'll do pavers set in sand! ;)...See Morenicole__
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