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Stove/Oven Range sticking out??

5 years ago

Hello,

I had a custom kitchen completed and when my contractor installed the KitchenAid residential range, I noticed that the black sides stick out quite a bit. From other topics, I researched that perhaps a totally flush look is not the safest or even expected, but the black sides seem to protrude so much. Any opinions, thoughts or experience with this? Thanks everyone!

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acarna

5 years ago

last modified: 5 years ago

I wonder if the electrical or gas line is not allowing it to fit slightly more fitted in the space. Another thought: is the backsplash blocking the oven from fitting further back? Maybe it's just the vent on the back side that is keeping it from being able to be moved the additional space. I recall our tiler accounting for this w/our range.

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GN Builders L.L.C
5 years ago
I don't see anything wrong with this stove installation. What are you talking about?
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nosoccermom
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago
i agree but that's the crux of ranges that are deeper than standard cabinet depth. Solution is an undercounter oven. There are, however, a few ranges that are "counterdepth":

https://www.ajmadison.com/b.php/30+Inch%3BDepth%3A+24%22+-+24.9%22%3BRanges/N~25+426+4294964459

Another option would be to pull the lowers forward, but too late at this point.
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Hi bbs_homeshop! This is an issue that you will need to consider, both in the cabinet and the countertop next to it. We resolved it in a simple way that a lot of people do when they have professional style ranges, by bumping out matching size cabinets out next to the range 1-1/2" - 2". The simplest way to do it is just to screw a piece of 2" x 4" behind the cabinets and then attach your cabinets to it. Then, it is nice to have the self edge of your counter near the leading edge of the top of the range that sticks out further, so it isn't a hip bumper. You'll notice that the self edge cuts back at a 45 degree angle at the next cabinet. I recently posted a picture of that run of cabinets on another thread, here is a link to the picture - scroll down towards the bottom of the page: Here is a link that might be useful: wolf range detail
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@chispa, having the integrated counter depth fridge be 26" deep is pretty standard and pantry cabinets tend to be deeper too, In principle, you are of course correct. But we made out lower cabinets 30" deep for extra countertop space (awesome decision; so happy we did that!). So, there wasn't any intrinsic reason why the architect would have had to also pull the tall cabinets forward. And the fridge is integrated, so it is intended to be installed flush in its cabinet. so it isn't like your kitchen designer had some secret knowledge. No, it definitely isn't "secret knowledge" per se. It's just the ability to think on your feet and to recognize how every decision has consequences. The architect absolutely could have skipped this detail and things would still have fit; they just wouldn't look quite as polished. Also, it was their expertise to decide to put these two tall cabinets on that particular wall so that they would frame the range. @wdccruise, I would not do anything like you are suggesting. There always are trade-offs with all of these decisions. If you have the space in the floor plan to pull cabinets forward, and if you are comfortable making the needed adjustments (non-standard countertop dimensions; non-standard end-panel dimensions; built-up back wall or custom cabinet boxes; trim piece behind range; ...), then extra deep countertops are wonderful. Whoever decided on 24" counters as a default really didn't have ergonomics in mind. 24" is good for other reasons (cost and room size), but it isn't good for giving you adequate working areas.
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chiflipper
5 years ago
Are you aware that the "top venting" of your oven WILL discolor the backsplash? Perhaps consider a different range that vents the oven from the bottom.
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townlakecakes
5 years ago
That is the thrummed oven door I think I’ve seen. Definitely the thinned I’ve noticed. It seems like they’re usually and inch or so deep, which could be why the sides of your stick out so much. We have a regular old free standing range and you can only see the door, but overall I’d say the depth of the whole range is probably about the same.

It looks like it’s a close to the wall as it can be.
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Heather N
5 years ago
I just have a range top and not an oven below it, but my range top sticks out the same amount as yours. I think that's kind of normal. Doesn't look bad to me.
mama goose_gw zn6OH
5 years ago
I think acarna is correct--it looks as if the solid surface BS is blocking the range from sliding all the way back against the wall. The range might be made to accommodate all cabinet door styles. Full overlay doors would add 3/4" to the cabinet face, therefore blocking more of the side view, but if your cabinets are inset or frameless, you won't have that extra projection.
User
5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago
You need the tall back guard for heat protection. And you would have needed to account for the extra thickness of the stone backsplash with custom dimensioned lower cabinets if you wanted less of the range side exposed. 1/4" or so always needs to be exposed, or you will end up with the cabinets scorched as well as your backsplash.
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Flo Mangan
5 years ago
Did the builder have the specifications for this range up front? If so, s/he should have ensured the kitchen cabinet m and countertop as well as hood flanged up together properly. This is not right. You probably needed a 3” forward pop out to accommodate this depth range. No easy fix here. Might have to change out range.
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cherylbirth
5 years ago
Off topic, but do you mind sharing what color/brand your counters are? I love them!
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wdccruise
5 years ago
What is the depth of the surrounding countertop?
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