I am not sure if you are interested in KraftMaid or UltraCraft brands. The cabinets at HomeDepot or Loews are not TradeMark Kraftmaid cabinetry. You get higher quality cabinetry at a KraftMaid dealer than at the home improvement stores.I have a KraftMaid, UltraCraft dealership and will be able to get you a very good price if you are interested(more than 50% off retail).I provide free design services and free quote and nothing has to be paid till you are ready to order.You can verify my dealership credentials with KraftMaid or UltraCraft to ensure its not a scam. If interested please contact kraft_kitchens@yahoo.com. Even if you don't order from me , I still can help answer any questions you might have regarding the various options and provide some tips on your design.

I visited the showroom today. The cabinets seem nice. There is no upcharge for inset (forgot to ask about upcharge for *beaded* inset....darn it! Anyone have the answer to this question?). I was told this is the case through 2011 and they are thinking of keeping it that way for good. Interestingly enough, when I asked about how inset pricing compares to full overlay, I was told that shiloh full overlay is a 4% upcharge. On the negative side, I was surprised that soft close drawers and dovetail drawer corners were not standard on Shiloh (Kraftmaid, for example offers these at no upcharge). I was not thrilled with the standard drawer construction. Personally, I want my cabinets to last 15-20 years, so construction matters to me! On an aesthetic note, I do not believe that the cabinets have exposed hinges if you are into that look. I know....lack of exposed hinges is a huge positive for some people. Apparently, there is a deal running on shiloh through the end of the month that includes soft close and dovetail at no upcharge. Just FYI. Oh, and I don't know if it's just my computer but the shiloh website pretty much sucks. I'd highly reccomend going in to look at some displays IRL.

We live in St. Louis, so we get all four seasons but not really the extremes of any of them. I'm not worried about swelling at all (maybe I should be but I'm just not!). Good point about the full overlay hiding the seams, although IMO seams are something only someone who has recently renovated a kitchen would ever notice. When my KD was explaining to me the difference between custom and semi-custom and pointing out the seams, I had to really take a second look to understand what he was talking about. There are lots of things like that in kitchen renovations, I think. :) We are about three weeks into our reno so cabinets won't be installed for another couple weeks, but I'll definitely post pictures since I know there are a lot of Shiloh people here!

Where in PA? If near HB, check out Swartz kitchens for Shiloh. They did well on pricing for the painted cabinets. Lowes and Just Cabinets did almost the same on the Medallion brand , which are Schuler at Lowes. KM was best at the big box for me, due to the sales they often have. The Masterpiece just did not compare in quality to the others and the pricing was about the same. I live in York county and the private dealers I dealt with did not offer the best pricing and were not usually as receptive to my input.