I don't know much about Kraftmaid, but we are going with Shiloh inset in Polar White. I really wanted inset but they are typically at least 20% higher than overlay cabinets. Shiloh is the only cabinet maker (that I know of and that my KD knows of) that doesn't charge extra for inset. For me it's a no-brainer. Inset is just a higher-end look. I'm not sure what you mean by box cabinets. Just that they're not fully custom? I don't think Kraftmaid are either (??). In the end, you said you prefer the look of the Shiloh so that seems to be the answer.

Yes they are both box cabinets but the full overlay doors on the Kraftmaid will make the seams where the boxes meet up much less noticeable. Yes I agree with you they are a nicer furniture style look. Do you mind asking me where you all live? Did they make you concerned about the shrinking and swelling of the doors?

Shiloh for sure!! That's what we're installing in our new build (this week, yay!) and I live in Michigan.

I just installed Kraftmaid full overlay in dove white. Love the cabinets. I looked at Shiloh inset in polar white as well- they were my two front runners, but I prefered the look of Kraftmaid. Very happy with my door style and the finished product.

Hi Johnsoro25 , do you have pics? Also Michelle and slk7e7, I would love to see your pics as well once installed!!

What door style did you get?

I got Knollwood Maple.

Last one is of the two dishwasher panels. I also paneled my refrigerator and freezer columns. Freezer is in the first photo.

It's gorgeous!

They made yours look really seamless. I think they had to put a few fillers in because with full overlay doors they had to have a tiny bit of clearance. Did they tell you that as well?

No fillers are needed with full overlay except at walls, and the odd appliance. The myth of fillers and semi custom cabinets seems to persist no matter how inaccurate.

I know that's what I would have thought. It doesn't look like the doors open at all beyond the cabinet. I didn't understand why they were saying that either.

I do not have any fillers. I went with a kitchen center rather than big box store, it's my understanding they can use a smaller measurement for a better fit. They also custom made the corbels for me for under the range hood. This last picture was taken early on, before I got my stools for the peninsula, but I love the free floating shelves as well :)

Wow that is great! I am working through Lowes for the Kraftmaid but I am just feeling super uncertain about it because I feel like I am rushed because of promotions ending but I am not sure they know what they are doing totally. I don't want to have buyers remorse so maybe I just need to take a bit more time to figure this all out.

First of all Lowes is always having promotions so slow down and do things right. Don't let them try and talk you into anything. If you can, I would go to a real kitchen place as opposed to a Lowes. Yes you'll pay a bit more, but they will back up everything and get it right for you. Most of the KD's in Lowes and HD are poorly trained. (Yes some are well trained, but not the majority.)

I have Shiloh inset in polar white. IMHO it is a better quality cabinet than Kraftmaid. The seams are not noticeable, as your eye is drawn to the lines of the inset cabinets.

mdln- How has the finish held up for you? Do you have any pics you wouldn't mind sharing?

IF fillers are needed, and that's a big if, then ask about extended stiles instead. Most designs only need maybe 2 fillers or extended stiles in the overall design. If you are working with an expert designer, ask them for a better explanation of where and why fillers are needed in the design.

We live in St. Louis, so we get all four seasons but not really the extremes of any of them. I'm not worried about swelling at all (maybe I should be but I'm just not!). Good point about the full overlay hiding the seams, although IMO seams are something only someone who has recently renovated a kitchen would ever notice. When my KD was explaining to me the difference between custom and semi-custom and pointing out the seams, I had to really take a second look to understand what he was talking about. There are lots of things like that in kitchen renovations, I think. :)

We are about three weeks into our reno so cabinets won't be installed for another couple weeks, but I'll definitely post pictures since I know there are a lot of Shiloh people here!

Hi all! Does anyone know what warranty Shiloh offers? I thought they offered a limited lifetime warranty but then I read in a forum it may be less?

Poorly trained??? I don't think so. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. But kitchen cabinet retention rate at Lowes is one of highest in industry. Lowes and HD for that matter invest quite a bit of money in training their cabinet specialists. Most individual stores for either retailer only hire degrees designers. Lowes especially will do all in their power to make it right for the customer. (If errors). You can move a complaint all the way up to VP level if need be. Do not feel the need to pull the trigger. They will do all they can to get your business. No I do not work for either company. I was an auditor for Lowes after college. But this was 18 years ago.

Jonsoro25, your kitchen cabinets are beautiful.

I am also looking at Shiloh, but considering their full access (frameless) for the base cabinets to maximize drawer space and the insets for the wall cabinets... just because I love them. Best of both worlds? Have you considered doing something like that?

Tracy and susanlynn2012, thanks for the compliments about my cabinets! We love our new kitchen :)