I LOVE my hand held shower head and use it every day. I makes rinsing all over much quicker and easier. Also nice for giving my puppies a bath and for rinsing the walls when I clean my shower.

For hard water we just do a quick squeegy after showers and use a shower cleaning spray (like TILEX Shower Spray) a couple times a week. We have been in our current house 12 years and the glass around our shower still looks wonderful and clear.

I got a handshower set up similar to this but without the sliding bar. There's just the elbow, the hose and handle and then a part that holds the handle. I totally love it! You can probably find this in champagne bronze.

This is the link to the elbow in your color:

https://www.build.com/delta-50560/s235741?uid=1669751

I can't imagine not having a hand shower - I installed two as I have one at each end.

Not only does it make cleaning myself easier but it also simplifies hosing down the shower - how do you plan to clean and rinse a shower without a hand held head?

I have no idea what look you are trying to achieve - I think mine are pretty unobtrusive and elegant and despite their slim look, they work as well as my previous round hand held?

This is the second hand held which is opposite the shower head, hand held and control valves which are both the door.

if you do the kind on the sliding bar, make sure the bar is mounted high enough. its sort of deceptive.... when it looks right, its actually too low to stand under. be warned.

I assume you have a shower now. What's your cleaning method currently?

sounds like most people like to use water to rinse the shower like I do versus just wiping it with a rag with vinegar. What I currently do is use the showerhead and point it to the walls always disappointed that the water doesn't reach far enough and use a cup to have it reach further. I clean with products like borax and vinegar. The cleaning lady tends to use bleach sometimes. I then let it air dry. It's an old damaged shower from the 70s that has white and gold old tile and got water behind the walls so we r redoing the whole bathroom, with white pebble on the floor (I believe), black and white morocan tile on the floor of the bathroom, and subway tile on the walls of the shower and at least 1/2 way up the walls of the bathroom. I will have glass doors, also, so will need to focus on the bathroom in a different way in general and it made some sense that my friend didn't want to spray her shower down with hard water. We also will only have a tub-sized 30"ish x 5' shower, will use a massage setting on the showerhead and have kids and long hair. I imagine shampoo... will get on the glass door and I will need to rinse that off. I guess I could continue to use a cup or my question was answered and I'll still get the handheld. :) Now, I'll have to quickly rethink the part about having the arm or not (if Delta offers a detachable handheld on an arm in the ones I was looking at). thx!

Get some sort of handheld- I didn’t when I built and regret it. Difficult to clean the walls. I have a well. I use Invisible Shield protectant periodically on glass as well as their water spot remover and glass cleaning spray.

the only thing I might consider is if I want to tie the hand shower into the main shower head. I'm not as fond of the look when the hose makes a "u" verses a tear drop. If this is sounding picky I might need to get over it and save money on plumbing. If anyone has any pics of handhelds tied into their reg shower head that will be great! Delta said that way there would be a small knob at the hand held base to divert water back and forth between showerhead and handheld and I wouldn't be able to use the 2 at the same time, but that's not an issue for me. thx!

I have a bathroom with a handheld shower head and another one without it. I prefer my handheld shower head when I'm cleaning my tub. For the other bathroom, I use a pink hospital water pitcher to rinse the shower walls when I'm cleaning it and that works fine, too.

I also have a private water well with very hard water that used to stain my toilets and tubs until last year. I went online to see what works for other people when cleaning hard water stains on their tubs and toilets. Then I went shopping and spent over $100 on cleaning supplies to try out different ones. Out of all the cleaning products I tried, I really liked Bar Keeper's Friend to get rid of hard water stains. It really does remove the rust and hard water stains on my tubs and toilets and it leaves some kind of waxy or protective film on your surfaces that keeps them from getting stained in between cleanings. I also use regular bathroom cleaner and dish soap together with Bar Keeper's Friend just to be sure my bathrooms are as clean and germ free as possible.

I have both a stationary and a hand held. I like the hand held because it reaches me when I sit on the bench. It's on a slider bar, and diverts from the main shower head. The way the hose is configured is a non issue.

Alen3, Is it the polish from Bar Keeper? I guess that stuff has been around since the 1800s?!: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DR92KLM/ref=psdc_10802561_t3_B000V72992 

You use it on everything but the glass, right? I am going to get the protectant film on my glass.

jenwen, is it a hassle for you to post a pic? thx everyone!!!

One of the things I think that I'm picturing, also, is like a lawn hose that gets stuck in one position and it doesn't just fall so it might end up sticking up and out which would be annoying but I've only seen one set up with the diverter and only one hand held hose in real life so I'm limited on my experience of how the hose can e. Sorry if this sounds like crazy giberish. :)

Molly, This issue that I'm bringing up might suit you! At least with Delta, there is a piece that they sell that hooks the shower head to the hand held and then u just have to mount the handheld on the wall, that way you don't have to do extra plumbing and you don't have to add a full sized diverter handle and valve. Have you thought about this? I didn't realize this until I called Delta. I went to a nice kitchen/bath store and they never told me about this option. It seems to me that it was created for people who want to add a handheld to their already existing shower and not tear out the walls.

Regardless of the kind of water one has, the only EASY way to clean a shower is with a handheld ...no matter what it takes. We planned ahead for our current remodel to have all the proper plumbing, but in another shower we have one that was an after-thought and is all one head that the handheld portion pulls out of...requires no additional plumbing

ccwatters, For you, would you say it's worth the extra money to do the extra plumbing with the foresight? I just called and spoke to someone at delta who told me different than the woman yesterday. 1st the person told me today that all of the handhelds do come out of the sliding bar if it comes on a sliding bar (the woman yesterday told them they were fixed and did not come off).
Today they said that the afterthought diverter attaches to the fixed showerhead, not the handheld. https://www.deltafaucet.com/parts-product-detail?modelNumber=U4920-CZ-PK

Other than having to reach up high and potential minor water pressure change I'm trying to consider what might be the other downfalls to having the diverter up at the showerhead verses on the wall? thx!

I will be remodeling one of my bathrooms soon. It will still have a tub/shower. I can't wait to have a handheld shower in it. I am going to just use a handheld on a slide bar. When I told that to the plumbing supply sales consultant she said "Oh I wish more people thought like you. A tub/shower really doesn't need both a fixed and a handheld." I prefer the slidebar so it can be adjusted to the users height but there's always the option of using a fixed mount with the handheld.

On Delta's website they show six of their 2in1 showerheads in the champagne bronze color. Those might be what you are referring to in your original post. If you haven't seen them, here is a link https://www.deltafaucet.com/bathroom/showering/showerheads--handshowers

And a picture of one of them

badgergal, thx for the info. the 2 in 1s r not what I was referring to but I did consider them. The only reason I decided against them in the end was that I read for a person or 2 that they thought there was not as much water pressure since water had to run through the hose. I definitely want more of a massage setting so I decided against this. Looks very nice, though!

FWIW, I have shower heads and hand held showers and I don't notice any less pressure in the hand held showers.

And I am probably not understanding what you are attempting to achieve, but don't all hand held showers have a hose since the hose is the reason why they are hand held and able to be moved around as opposed to a stationary shower head.

For your cleaning method... What product do you have in your shower? Ceramic/porcelain or natural stone?

Most ceramic/porcelain tiles are fire glazed, vinegar and water work best as an every day cleaning.

If you have natural stone, do not use vinegar on it as it can etch and cause a haze on the stone. Dawn dish soap is great for cleaning stone, or cleaners that are specifically made for stone.

If hard water becomes a pest down the road there are cleaners that can be used to remove it.

Stone Tech #Restorer - Ceramic/porcelain tile

Stone Tech #KlenzAll - Natural stone (stone will need to be resealed after using this cleaner)

thx! given my options I ordered a showerhead with 5 settings and a handheld with 3 options so I can shower the walls and if my 1 0 yr wants to use it she can. I decided against the one with the bar since the one I was eyeballing that was less $ and pretty only had one H20knietic setting and my priority was pressure over looks. In my small shower it's hard to say if the bar would've looked too busy, also. Delta is coming out with a diverter/on/off switch all in one in our color in a couple of weeks but we decided that that wouldn't save much $ on plumbing as I had thought it might and to move forward with tearing down walls Sunday.

My tile is porcelain and I bought a glass windowsill for the top of the curb although my tile guy said he has never worked with that before so when i see him in person tomorrow we'll have a convo about it and see if he'll give it a go (so i'll have less grout lines) or if we'll just do the larger subway tiles on the curb.

Thx for the help!

Go to the manufacturers website for the glass windowsill and see what they recommend adhering their product with. With glass you'll need a different setting material than what the tile is set in.

I would've never known. Hence why the tile guy may be hesitant to install it. Also, more materials. I'll look it up. thx!

Hi Kim, sorry for my late reply. Badgergirl posted the Delta showered I have in my older bathroom. I bought it 3 years ago and it is still working great. It has water-savers built into both heads, but with my plumber's suggestion, I reached in with thin screwdriver/tweezers (tweezers I didn't care about) and maneuvered/pulled the plastic water saver out of each showered....the water pressure is very strong. Here is the link to the one I got, the chrome one is $50 less.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006FYB51S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Hope that helps.