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Comments (13)Some basic questions as I have recently replaced the older appliances in our home. What type of range are you currently cooking on? Do you already have a gas range/cooktop? The reason I ask is that when your used to one type of heating switching can be a surprise. I've had the Frigidaire FGGF304DLW (in white) all gas double oven range. I've only had it for a week so I'm still getting used to it. So far I really like to double oven feature. We've only used the larger oven once, but the small upper oven preheats quickly. Can't really comment on temperature uniformity/accuracy but the temps don't seem far off. The one surprise is how much heat is 'wasted' on the cook top with the sealed burners. We had an older (not sure how old) coil top electric stove before. If I try to boil a cup and a third of water in a 6" diameter pot (an AllClad) it seems to take longer than the old coil stove. Also we've found out that our over the range microwave has a overtemperature feature that turns on the exhaust fan. It had never gone off before. I'm still on the learning curve so I won't give a full review. Just to let you know if your going to a different system, you may be surprised at how different it is. If your already using a sealed gas cook top, it might not be that different. The Consumer Reports appliance review did mention that even the electric smooth top ranges are more efficient than the 'consumer' gas ranges they reviewed. In terms of your other selections, we have Kitchenaid DW and cabinet depth french door fridge that we are happy with. Also look at the 'distributor's' in your area. These are the companies that sell directly to builders, they may also sell to consumers. I'm in Cincinnati and the one I've dealt with has come close to on-line prices (definitely beats big box stores). Also see if there are stores that have scratch and dent show rooms. Often the slight damage is in the unexposed area....See MoreIs this budget feasible? (long)
Comments (9)Average kitchen replacement remodels are 40K. That's just replacing the components. You're talking upper end appliances that can run you 20K plus cabinets that can run you 30-40K for a kitchen and a butler's pantry. You've got structural work and systems work and moving all of that work. Plus other components. I don't think that doubling your budget would be enough here for what you're proposing. You're going to have to scale back your finish level substantially. And either learn to DIY or still come up with 30K more than your budget. Plus a contingency fun in case they find something behind the walls. And they will. They always do with old houses. Such as, what size is your electrical panel? A lot of kitchen redos in older homes end up running all new service to the home because it doesn't contain enough capacity for the requirments of a modern kitchen. With a rental unit, you might be lucky enough to have that be fine, but you'll still need a lot of wiring to make another room into a kitchen. Do you have galvanized plumbing? How old is it even if it's not galvanized? What about the insulation level of the home? It's HVAC system? Is it two units for the two spaces? Your remodel will affect all of those items. It's late tonight and I have an early morning, but when I get a bit of time to look at your plans, I'll give it a go. But right off, I see some issues with your plans. Where do you park and enter the home? The proposed kitchen location doesn't appear to be close to either a rear entrance or the front entrance. That's a potential problem. If the apartment rear door will be the way groceries come in, I think I'd make the area that you have designated the new living room to be the new kitchen and the area you have designated to be the new kitchen as the dining room. But, there is a lot of duplicate space, and I think I'd consult an architect that specializes in renovations of older homes for some help in figuring out a plan here. I think you could get a pretty nice master suite out of one side of the home and have a TV room and a den out of the rest. The old apartment kitchen would make a fabulous sunroom/morning room type space....See MoreSmall & On a Budget: Qs on cooktop & oven
Comments (9)Hi! Thank you all for weighing in! Smallhouse, thank you for making me feel grateful for my extra storage space--it's always good to appreciate what you have and it's so easy to focus on what you don't! You know, I wondered why the sink swap hadn't occurred to me and I realized it was because I do the cooking in our family and my husband does the dishes! I asked him if he'd prefer having the sink looking into the family room and he would much rather do his "job" in isolation from the kids! : ) I'd love to see what you end up deciding, these small kitchens are hard!! Hollysprings, the mission statement really should be "small, on a budget and really, really, really want to be able to watch kids play while I cook." The budget part is why that wall is not coming down, and it's just a pass-through. It probably is silly to make all these compromises around that pass-through but being able to interact with kids while cooking is the thing I'm most looking forward to. I gave some very serious thought to switching fridge and range (b/c of a quirk of our house, that's an outside wall) but again that would isolate me from the kids while I cook. FWIW, the downdraft would be an improvement to the current status, which is no ventilation. : ) We've been living for years with the arrangement of sketch but with a range pushed out far enough so the D/W can open. It clears the adjacent cabinet by a millimeter and it is good for the reminder, Canuckplayer, that I need to be thinking of that, when ordering cabinets. Again, appreciate the feedback and your time! I think I'm going to go with option no. 3 on cooktop. Still not sure what to do about oven....See MoreAnyone remove their pantry & put cabinets instead?Also 24' pantry
Comments (12)Honestly, I'm confused. How big is your pantry closet? 36" long x 24" deep? Or is it 36" long by 36" deep and you want to narrow the depth to 24" and put a 12" deep cabinet BEHIND it? I cannot picture this at all! Do you have cabinets next to the fridge right now or just a deep pantry closet? OK, well, you only have a coat closet if you completely get rid of the pantry closet, therefore I say that you must have at a minimum a 24"x24" utility / broom closet. As far as an actual "pantry" goes, it's hard to say without a floorplan. A well designed pantry is invaluable, a poorly designed pantry is a major waste of space. If you have a small kitchen and lack counterspace then you may be better off without a pantry, but usually that would be replacing it with 24" deep base cabs and 12" deep uppers. You still need storage space - the equivalent of what your pantry held at least. A "pantry" stores food. A "closet" stores non-food items such as cleaning supplies and, well, yes, dog food too. A pantry can be replaced with the equivalent in cabinets (drawer base - regular base cabs are just as bad as a poorly designed pantry). Food and non-food items should have separate storage spaces - otherwise you end up with a mess as you apparently have right now (as do I - my pantry is poorly designed and at the opposite end of the dining room diagonally across from the kitchen - I don't know what the builder was thinking). Note that a 24" deep pantry only works if it is a pull-out, otherwise 12-15" shelves are the way to go....See More- 7 years ago
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