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Comments (12)I am NO expert - but we have started the process of spec'ing out potential options - I found AJMadison site valuable for a guy just trying to leave from a start of zero. Based on some config constraints - I ended up looking at things like a FiveStar Duel Fuel (we needed the 24in depth but wanted a 36 inch 6 burner, a Leibheer 36 inch fridge french door bottom freezer, Dacor MW drawer, Meile dishwasher (mid line in their line), a Futro hood and ended up pricing out some basic stuff for a snack station on the lower level for the kids off the rec room/ media room - and included there a basic beverage center by Frigidare, a GE Profile MW, and a Bosch dishwasher - this all approached a bit over $17K at the internet site prices - I then called them directly with the same choices and they offered a package price that was over $2000 less right out of the gate - and free shipping/no tx - they said they could have done more but apparently the fridge we inquired about is a tank and has high shipping costs. I know it is a hodgepodge and most likely now what we will end up with, but I was trying to get a rough order of magnitude and see what they would do with a single phone call to press on price....See MorePantry or No Pantry? Can't decide...
Comments (31)I think your guests will be more comfortable sitting at an island than a peninsula. How much actual time do you spend standing at the stove? At the peninsula, you have two people in a small space, with one trapped in by the wall. That person gets to look at the side of a wall cabinet. There is no other view than you at the stove. Maybe you're a famous chef and they won't mind this. ;) In that case, an island cooktop is a better choice. If you need something from the walk-in pantry, they have to move. So most likely one will sit on the end, but where will you sit while you're waiting for the water to boil? The peninsula forces you into getting a breakfast table, further crowding the kitchen. That table is in front of the bathroom door. Not very appetizing. So with the island, they can sit or stand around it and help prep, as Foxcrane's guests did. If you turn the island, you'll have drawers facing the sink and a place for silverware and other items that come out of the DW. You can unload groceries onto the island, which is close to your entryway. You will take the path of least resistance doing these tasks, so with a peninsula, they will all shift to the small counter to the left of the sink, where you will probably need to keep a small appliance or two. I have never seen anyone resist an island when they have room for one. Islands are also more desirable for resale....See MoreBasic Builder's Kitchen-Ideas Welcomed!
Comments (15)I think you should make a plan for your kitchen, before you dig in. In how many years, realistically, might you change the countertops or do a full gut-remodel? If you honestly think either one of those could be in the next 5 years, that would change my answer. My gut feeling is, you just bought this house and you have a lot of things to furnish and complete. If so, then I'm guessing you're 7-10 years out before a full-scale kitchen remodel? And in that case, I'd gently suggest you do the following: 1. Assuming your cabinets don't have peeling veneer, or details we can't see, then I would leave them dark as mayflower advised. 2. Get cabinet hardware as andrea advised. 3. Tile the backsplash. You could add instant bling by buying the cute mini-tiles, already on webbing at Home Depot. Some have a bit of metallic or jewel tones. With labor you could be at a $1,000 for this item alone, but I really think it would perk things up. Also, aesthetically, your top cabinets seem to be floating in a sea of wall right now. The backsplash will connect the bottom cabs to the top ones. Also, please continue the backsplash down behind the current stove 6 inches.(see point 4). 4. Replacing appliances: Mayflowers is correct that this would also update your room. I would replace the stove. But, since you MIGHT want to open up that wall, you could be looking at a stove on an island someday. So leave your options open: Buy a slide-in range that could be used against a wall or on an island. A backsplash will be even more useful then, because your stove won't stick up above counter-height. See the sample photo of a slide-in range that I've attached. If you were to replace any other appliances, my second choice would be a white fridge. Fridges have gotten so much more efficient, you will actually save some money on their operation. Somehow the D/W is less bothersome to me. Also, most busy families wear out a dishwasher every several years so I'd milk it to the end before replacing. 5. I am not sure you need to repaint unless you have worn spots from the previous owners. You have a nice neutral color on your walls. See what you find for your other accessories before deciding. Here is a link that might be useful: Sample of a slide-in range...See MoreHelp with basic kitchen layout down under
Comments (11)Thank you very much for these ideas -although I tried the L-shape it never occurred to me to move the range right down toward the patio door. - it does give a nice length of bench space. Its is so dreadfully open though - I'm a messy cook - which is why I discounted having the table in the middle of the room. IT seems to be that it would get in the way a bit too - it's in the path between the fridge and the stove. And most of the food will be in the pantry - so I think that might be a bit too far ... The main thing with the L-shaped is that I only end up with standard depth benches - that's why the peninsular (or U ) is so appealing - to get the extra width (for sewing as well as cookng) - plus the separation to hide the mess near the sink. I read those suggested distances somewhere - and to me they are too far - the worst kitchen I ever had was that spread out - felt like I'd walked a 1/2 marathon after a cooking session! In terms of landing space - that was what I was planning on using the peninsular for. Also there will be a bench in the pantry for the kettle, toaster etc I've not had space next to the fridge for the last couple of kitchens (including this one) and it really doesn't seem to matter so long as it's only a step or 2 to somewhere with a place to put things down on. The fridge is actually in that exact same spot at the moment - and it's fine. I do think the US fridges work a little differently - you talk about "counter depth" fridges - but all of ours are a standard 600mm depth - and you can remove all shelves so long as the door opens to 90 - which ours does. They need a bit of space around them anyway for the heat - in any of these design it won't be built in or integrated - I've never felt the need to hide the fridge Yes the table just pushed against 2 walls in the bottom right may just about work - it overhangs the opening through to the living - but that's not necessarily a bad thing as you'd see the view from some of the chairs. We can then pull out when company comes - which obscures the patio door - but that doesn't matter - if the weather is good - we will be eating outside anyways so the table won't be out - if it's not fine the door isn't needed. I've consider more storage down the bottom of the design- but I suspect I don't need it - we measured all the cabinets in a u-shaped version and ended up with plenty of space for our existing stuff. In some ways I'd rather have the wall space as there is very little wall space due to the open plan plus large windows. Plus it's a really handy electrical outlet there - which we use a lot for plugging in outdoor tools like the electric mower. I've added some more pictures of the existing kitchen - except for the awful pantry in the middle of everything the bench space is almost enough as it is - which is why I think I'd be ok with the galley. (Excuse the mess it's Friday night here - I don't clean during the week! )...See More- 7 years ago
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